Germany vs England - tonight 7.45pm

[Herr Tubthumper]

I knew that was a mistake!

Fair play

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

The Krauts really are annoying though aren't they.
Even when they can't be bothered they can still find that one piece of class to win, and it hurts even more as we have been really trying.
Sorry, it's embarrassing, I would rather get stuffed by a top side trying to win.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

No, we're not.

Well I think we are, not in qualifiers but when it really matters.
I know it's only a friendly but the Germans were not even trying.

 

[Birdie Boy]

Everyone goes on that we have to start from scratch, do the German thing and in few years you never know. What's this, Southgate's 5th game and he has brought in new and younger players and they play well but still get slated. At least this game we didn't deserve to lose instead of deserving to lose.

 

[Captain Sensible]

Haha, you're not suggesting he could've saved that?

Pulls his arm away as if he thinks it's going wide.

 

[T soprano]

The Krauts really are annoying though aren't they.
Even when they can't be bothered they can still find that one piece of class to win, and it hurts even more as we have been really trying.
Sorry, it's embarrassing, I would rather get stuffed by a top side trying to win.

Makes it even worse when England fans result to chants of "have you ever won a war" another embarrassing night watching England

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

Everyone goes on that we have to start from scratch, do the German thing and in few years you never know. What's this, Southgate's 5th game and he has brought in new and younger players and they play well but still get slated. At least this game we didn't deserve to lose instead of deserving to lose.

Very fair point, I did not look at it that way and England did play better tonight, but we really should have scored at least one.
But it has been poor for so long not sure I can wait another 5 years and even then we have no guarantees that it will be any better.

 

[boik]

Makes it even worse when England fans result to chants of "have you ever won a war" another embarrassing night watching England

Only because you choose to be embarrassed. I thought that was an encouraging performance. Southgate (and I'm not his biggest fan) is prepared to try something new and the players bought into it and made it work. Everyone worked hard, but according to the sages on here it's much better not to try. I can understand Herr T being so anti-England, but I would had thought some others could have been a bit more supportive of the manager and players. With fans like this there will be no-one left who wants to manage or play for England.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Everyone goes on that we have to start from scratch, do the German thing and in few years you never know. What's this, Southgate's 5th game and he has brought in new and younger players and they play well but still get slated. At least this game we didn't deserve to lose instead of deserving to lose.

All the time you have the FA and the Premier League, and for that matter the FL, pulling in very different directions with very different agendas you will not see any progress. I cannot see this changing in my life time.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Only because you choose to be embarrassed. I thought that was an encouraging performance. Southgate (and I'm not his biggest fan) is prepared to try something new and the players bought into it and made it work. Everyone worked hard, but according to the sages on here it's much better not to try. I can understand Herr T being so anti-England, but I would had thought some others could have been a bit more supportive of the manager and players. With fans like this there will be no-one left who wants to manage or play for England.

So it's the fans fault we are not that good as a nation? We last got to a final/won a tournament over 50 years ago.

 

[boik]

So it's the fans fault we are not that good as a nation?

No, thats not what I'm saying and you know it. Can you not find anything positive about tonight, and don't say it doesn't matter cos we lost, cos when Germany looked like they might lose, apparently that didn't matter. All this negativity just sucks the life out of me.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Only because you choose to be embarrassed. I thought that was an encouraging performance. Southgate (and I'm not his biggest fan) is prepared to try something new and the players bought into it and made it work. Everyone worked hard, but according to the sages on here it's much better not to try. I can understand Herr T being so anti-England, but I would had thought some others could have been a bit more supportive of the manager and players. With fans like this there will be no-one left who wants to manage or play for England.

I'm not anti-England. I am sick and tired of the nonsense and bull shit which goes with the national team though. And I have seen all these words, so called encouraging performances and new generations too many times. It's no coincidence that France put a philosophy and system in place via their top flight and national association and eventually won something. Ditto Spain. Ditto Germany. When the English FA last called for a "root-and-branch" investigation they didn't actually even get round to the research let alone put anything in place.

It's crap. And all the time people don't complain it will remain crap.

PS I have probably been to more England games home and away than you think.

 

[boik]

I'm not anti-England. I am sick and tired of the nonsense and bull shit which goes with the national team though. And I have seen all these words, so called encouraging performances and new generations too many times. It's no coincidence that France put a philosophy and system in place via their top flight and national association and eventually won something. Ditto Spain. Ditto Germany. When the English FA last called for a "root-and-branch" investigation they didn't actually even get round to the research let alone put something in place.

But why not support Gareth and the boys when they at least try something new. It's not their fault that the old farts are in charge. England did play pretty well, but no-one could bring themselves to say it, just said that Germany were not trying, the national team are an embarrassment, and some fans were singing nasty songs. I could count the positive posts on the fingers of one hand.

 

[Soulman]

A good England performance, but unless you put the ball in the net you know Germany will eventually score. Many times they do not deserve to win but manage to scrape through.
Well done England, some good individual performances and good support.

 

[boik]

A good England performance, but unless you put the ball in the net you know Germany will eventually score. Many times they do not deserve to win but manage to scrape through.
Well done England, some good individual performances and good support.

And on that positive post, I'm off to bed!

 

[Bozza]

Really decent stuff from England tonight, I thought. With some more composure (Harry Kane?) in front of goal we'd have been out of sight in the early stages of the second half.

More of the same on Sunday, please.

 

[Husty]

So... lost to a reserve team that barely broke out of a sweat. Good job boys.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

But why not support Gareth and the boys when they at least try something new. It's not their fault that the old farts are in charge. England did play pretty well, but no-one could bring themselves to say it, just said that Germany were not trying, the national team are an embarrassment, and some fans were singing nasty songs. I could count the positive posts on the fingers of one hand.

I hear what you're saying. I can't speak for everyone but personally, until something changes, I can't be arsed with it, and the hype, anymore. Yes I am negative but that's how I feel towards it. I hope you can see my point. I'll wish you well and stop here.

 

[Birdie Boy]

Really decent stuff from England tonight, I thought. With some more composure (Harry Kane?) in front of goal we'd have been out of sight in the early stages of the second half.

More of the same on Sunday, please.

What he said..

 

[Return of the Rev]

Loved it! On the right tracks tonight