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[Politics] General Election 2024 - 4th July



aolstudios

Well-known member
Nov 30, 2011
5,274
brighton
Maybe worth reinforcing then.

Easy pickings against a failing govt, against others where his position of power is slightly less obvious, then I fear he'll be left floundering.
Still, as I said the proof of the pudding.....
He did it from the moment he took the leadership. Every pmqs. Against a pm who no one perceived as 'failing' at the time. Starmer slowly & forensically filleted him. He'd still be in office if not for that quiet careful work. I watched it, every week
 




Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,453
Sussex by the Sea
He did it from the moment he took the leadership. Every pmqs. Against a pm who no one perceived as 'failing' at the time. Starmer slowly & forensically filleted him. He'd still be in office if not for that quiet careful work. I watched it, every week
We've nothing to worry about then.
 




Weststander

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
69,252
Withdean area
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sparkie

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
13,267
Hove
Looking forward to some Portillo results on Thursday.

My most wanted boot out is Rees-Mogg, but Truss would be another funny one, even Sunak is possible. Braverman would be wonderful. And what if Farage actually fails ?

Lots of potential entertainment on Thursday/Friday.
 




Weststander

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
69,252
Withdean area
Looking forward to some Portillo results on Thursday.

My most wanted boot out is Rees-Mogg, but Truss would be another funny one, even Sunak is possible. Braverman would be wonderful. And what if Farage actually fails ?

Lots of potential entertainment on Thursday/Friday.

I go by the individual, how extreme are they. Trump’s new mate Truss losing would be enjoyable, due also to the financial hurt she caused.

Moderate, Remain Tory’s losing won’t do anything for me. I remember the Bitter Left getting overly excited when the likes of Chris Patten lost in 92 …. as if they were all neo-fascists …. I worked with an unhinged angry bloke who was like that. Some solace after Labour blew it.
 
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A1X

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NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
20,537
Deepest, darkest Sussex
Looking forward to some Portillo results on Thursday.

My most wanted boot out is Rees-Mogg, but Truss would be another funny one, even Sunak is possible. Braverman would be wonderful. And what if Farage actually fails ?

Lots of potential entertainment on Thursday/Friday.
Apparently the Tories are bricking it about Sunak, he’s been in his own constituency several days this week whereas usually the PM’s seat is a slam dunk
 


Weststander

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
69,252
Withdean area
Apparently the Tories are bricking it about Sunak, he’s been in his own constituency several days this week whereas usually the PM’s seat is a slam dunk

Funny thing is, privately it’d probably be a relief. As he’s promised to be an MP for the entire next term.

Reform/Liberal/Tory/SNP MP’s will effectively be entirely powerless, bar some input to committees.

Rishi can try Californian life like Nick Clegg.
 
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Machiavelli

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2013
17,770
Fiveways
I go by the individual, how extreme are they. Trump’s new mate Truss losing would be enjoyable, due also to the financial hurt she caused.

Moderate, Remain Tory’s losing won’t do anything for me. I remember the Bitter Left getting overly excited when the likes of Chris Patten lost in 92 …. as if they were all neo-fascists …. I worked with an unhinged angry bloke who was like that. Some solace after Labour blew it.
Oh, come on, the Let's flatten Patten campaign was hilarious. Not so sure I was of the view that he was a neo-fascist though.
 


Ooh it’s a corner

Well-known member
Aug 28, 2016
5,533
Nr. Coventry
Looking forward to some Portillo results on Thursday.

My most wanted boot out is Rees-Mogg, but Truss would be another funny one, even Sunak is possible. Braverman would be wonderful. And what if Farage actually fails ?

Lots of potential entertainment on Thursday/Friday.
Rees-Mogg for me too - the most condescending, patronising upper-class tw*t of them all!
 






Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
NSC Patron
Jul 16, 2003
58,790
hassocks
Looking forward to some Portillo results on Thursday.

My most wanted boot out is Rees-Mogg, but Truss would be another funny one, even Sunak is possible. Braverman would be wonderful. And what if Farage actually fails ?

Lots of potential entertainment on Thursday/Friday.
I have the smallest amount of respect for those Tories that haven't jumped ship and stood by the mess and for re-election.

Doesn't mean I don't want them out of course.
 


Weststander

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
69,252
Withdean area
Oh, come on, the Let's flatten Patten campaign was hilarious. Not so sure I was of the view that he was a neo-fascist though.

All the middle class Labour zealots I knew weren’t laughing. Screwed foreheads, spitting hate, forever miserable, easy to wind up.

Symptomatic of times to come (now). Ten, twenty years ago Rudd, Soubry et al were spoken of, including in these pages, as the devil incarnate. Lazy, non nuanced, shouty, unattractive party political warfare. A huge turn off for the wider electorate.

Thank god for Starmer and Streeting. Turning the dial down, kicking out the racist oafs.
 


Machiavelli

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2013
17,770
Fiveways
All the middle class Labour zealots I knew weren’t laughing. Screwed foreheads, spitting hate, forever miserable, easy to wind up.

Symptomatic of times to come (now). Ten, twenty years ago Rudd, Soubry et al were spoken of, including in these pages, as the devil incarnate. Lazy, non nuanced, shouty, unattractive party political warfare. A huge turn off for the wider electorate.

Thank god for Starmer and Streeting. Turning the dial down, kicking out the racist oafs.
So I take it that you didn't find the 'Let's flatten Patten' campaign hilarious then.
 










Motogull

Todd Warrior
Sep 16, 2005
10,475
Is it me?

This campaign has become 'presidential to me, certainly from the tories. Every other party leader has 'subbed' out some roles whereas Sunk in the last couple of weeks is mostly going it alone.
 




medwayseagull reborn

Well-known member
Oct 12, 2022
512
Is it me?

This campaign has become 'presidential to me, certainly from the tories. Every other party leader has 'subbed' out some roles whereas Sunk in the last couple of weeks is mostly going it alone.
Very strange as his personal ratings are historically low. Perhaps the others don't want to be associated with such an inept campaign and are refusing to prop him up.
 


Me Atome

Active member
Mar 10, 2024
119
Is it me?

This campaign has become 'presidential to me, certainly from the tories. Every other party leader has 'subbed' out some roles whereas Sunk in the last couple of weeks is mostly going it alone.
I think you're right. Perhaps exaggerated by the "leaders debates" on TV. And what TV news want to show.
 


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