A cynic would suggest, since it became financially advantageous for him to switch.
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A cynic would suggest, since it became financially advantageous for him to switch.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
Very true but I think [MENTION=1416]Ernest[/MENTION] and [MENTION=409]Herr Tubthumper[/MENTION] are back on board now.
East Preston Gull
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Corbyn's reaction to the election.
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Seagull kimchi
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Momentum.
Da Man Clay
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- Dec 16, 2004
- 16,286
Corbyn's reaction to the election.
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Did you not get much sleep last night? You seem to be losing it a touch.
Wrong-Direction
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- Mar 10, 2013
- 13,643
So happy the elite have had a big fat slap in the face! Hopefully people will realise you shouldn't believe everything you read in the papers!
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East Preston Gull
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To be fair, I have been up since I left for work at 5.30 am Thursday, so you may have a point.
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CherryInHove
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- Apr 16, 2015
- 154
The good news about the Conservatives teaming up with DUP is that DUP want entry to the single market and free movement from any Brexit negotiation, so it appears this is going to be a soft Brexit which is obviously not as good as no Brexit, but much better than what could have been.
Seems that way.
Da Man Clay
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- Dec 16, 2004
- 16,286
Fair play you're even able to type coherent sentences. I'd be in a bad way after that period of time awake.
From 1997 until 2015 Sugar was a member of the Labour Party and also one of its largest donors. On 11 May 2015, four days after the United Kingdom general election, 2015, he announced that he was leaving the party.
Sugar endorsed Theresa May for the United Kingdom general election, 2017.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Sugar#Political_involvement
Raleigh Chopper
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Just a personal opinion.
If another election is called in the near future I would hope that the movement towards labour continues and moves the Tories to the other side of the chamber, where I believe they belong as they are not fit to govern this country.
I am still struggling to believe that so many people still think that the failed Tory austerity polices are a good thing.
I know you like your stats and that's fair enough but although happy with last night I would have liked to have seen Labour sneak over the line and get the awful Tories out.
larus
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I really don't get all of this euphoria from the Labour voters.
They have 261 MPs.
Tories 318 MPs.
Lots of reporting that the youth vote were heavily influenced to vote by the 'remove tuition fees' policy. So, is this just another example of people voting for self-interest? I know the usual suspects will say differently, but this is not an unreasonable assumption to make as to why there was a sudden surge in the votes from young people.
"Hey, mr/miss student, do you want someone else to pay our £27k university fees. If so, give me your vote".
No, that really couldn't be the reason.
Oh, BTW, I think that £9k p.a. is extortionate and morally wrong. I do feel as though a reasonable figure is OK, say £3k p.a.
They have 261 MPs.
Tories 318 MPs.
Lots of reporting that the youth vote were heavily influenced to vote by the 'remove tuition fees' policy. So, is this just another example of people voting for self-interest? I know the usual suspects will say differently, but this is not an unreasonable assumption to make as to why there was a sudden surge in the votes from young people.
"Hey, mr/miss student, do you want someone else to pay our £27k university fees. If so, give me your vote".
No, that really couldn't be the reason.
Oh, BTW, I think that £9k p.a. is extortionate and morally wrong. I do feel as though a reasonable figure is OK, say £3k p.a.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Caunt?
Next PM odds
May 1/5 (and drifting like a barge)
Johnson 8/1
Davis 33/1
Rudd 40/1
Corbyn 40/1
May 1/5 (and drifting like a barge)
Johnson 8/1
Davis 33/1
Rudd 40/1
Corbyn 40/1
Fair enough, although it does sound a bit like saying Leeds belong in the Premier League. Everyone's entitled to their opinion.
And I completely agree that if there is another election in the near-term then Labour's momentum (lower case 'm') would likely see them with even more seats.
larus
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I struggle how people think that living within your means is a bad thing. I also struggle with the entitlement culture. The government doesn't have any money - all of it's expenditure comes from taking money from other taxpayers/companies.
I left home at 19 with no help from family and have been self-sufficient. I went back to college at 23 and re-trained, with a little government help. Since then I have never claimed anything, not have I ever expected to have something for nothing. I believe that we are responsible for our own lives and the welfare state is there to look after those that can't look after themselves or fall on hard times. And of course, the NHS and education (up the college level) should be free and of a high standard. However, the demographics of the country are changing, and this is something we need to be honest about.
East Preston Gull
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If tory's do stay in power Ruth Davidson must be in with a shout, exemplary work she is doing across the border.
I don't agree with her remain stance but will have to go with it. She seems like the real deal. Smart lady.
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nicko31
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So just to be clear if the Tories get the support of the DUP, how many Tories need to cross the floor to inflict a government defeat?
Not so sure myself. Their support may have peaked, and if the Tories get their act together properly next time it might be harder. I suspect the Tories will nick the best bits of the labour manifesto anyway.....