Gary Hart - Professional Footballer - Discuss

[Gary Nelson]

You could easily argue that we have a few vegtables and cabbages in our team.

 

[On the Left Wing]

If our whole midfield is limited, then how is it that we are doing so well? Ok, we're not top but we're up there, and are coming in to finish the season on a great run (hopefully...) Yes, a lot of our players won't make it in div 1 if we get there, but they're good enough to get us promoted, as we have seen before, so no need to complain at the moment. Hart is a legend, and always will be. If he's making mistakes, he's still putting in 110% and if that's enough to spur on other players to do the same, then keep him in. I do competely agree that his injury has affected him, maybe with a summer of training he will be back to what we know he can be next season, but he's still one of our best midfielders. Everyone goes through bad patches. (I'm not that biased, honest)

I agree that Hart is a legend and gives 200% .... I have defended Kerry in the past in much the same way .... and there is nothing we can do about things until the season is over. Also with injuries to Rodger and Blackwell (and David Lee being soo poor) our scope to change anything is limited. But come the close season McGhee will have to review the whole of our midfield if we are to survive in Div 1.

 

[Schrödinger's Toad]

Harty has been fairly poor this season, but has improved in the last month, hopefully this is just a blip. As previously stated, the time to evaluate is in the summer, then we can bring in a few more players (needed irrespective of division) and all the players can earn their places on merit

 

[London Irish]

This criticism of Harty is very ill-conceived. Since his return from injury, his contribution to the team has been excellent and he is been a big part of our recent revival.

On Saturday, he had a couple of clumsy touches within a minute and perhaps didn't have his best game, but that is no reason to lose all perspective and to forget about what he has done over the past four months.

If McGhee could design a player from scratch to fulfill the right flank role in the current gameplan of the team, it would be OGH. If people think he doesn't get into the box as much as should, remember that the current shape/tactics of the team puts a premium on work in his own half breaking down the opposition. As a box-to-box workhorse, he can't be faulted, his workrate and desire is tremendous.

His early goals were also key to the routs of Tranmere and Bournemouth and he came with inches of another early wonder goal against Brentford. Never mind David Lee, OGH is the reason why John Piercy can't get back in the team despite his excellent games against Wycombe and Plymouth.

OGH still has a great deal to offer the team. Every man can be replaced by a better player and whether we have the money to do so next season will be interesting to see. But it would have to be a bloody good signing to knock him out of the team.

 

[Hart's mistress]

This criticism of Harty is very ill-conceived. Since his return from injury, his contribution to the team has been excellent and he is been a big part of our recent revival.

On Saturday, he had a couple of clumsy touches within a minute and perhaps didn't have his best game, but that is no reason to lose all perspective and to forget about what he has done over the past four months.

If McGhee could design a player from scratch to fulfill the right flank role in the current gameplan of the team, it would be OGH. If people think he doesn't get into the box as much as should, remember that the current shape/tactics of the team puts a premium on work in his own half breaking down the opposition. As a box-to-box workhorse, he can't be faulted, his workrate and desire is tremendous.

His early goals were also key to the routs of Tranmere and Bournemouth and he came with inches of another early wonder goal against Brentford. Never mind David Lee, OGH is the reason why John Piercy can't get back in the team despite his excellent games against Wycombe and Plymouth.

OGH still has a great deal to offer the team. Every man can be replaced by a better player and whether we have the money to do so next season will be interesting to see. But it would have to be a bloody good signing to knock him out of the team.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Generally you can't fault his work-rate, it is what his game is based on. That is one reason it is noticable when he doesn't put the effort in.

It is footballing nous that I question. In the game the other week Knight was taking the ball forward and OGH was running about 5 yards directly behind him - get wide Gary, make some space. And have some idea about when we need to retain possession. And having made the run - get into the box. You can do it.

It may be if he had a footballing brain he would be too good for us, but blimey it is frustrating

 

[blue-shifted]

Don't at all agree that Hart..

a) lacks nous
b) has had too many injuries to be useful any more
c) has played badly recently

We always miss him when he doesn't play, London Irish has called this one right IMO. Maybe later in his career he plans re change position, maybe to a wing back, or a central midfielder as he did successfully once last year (think it was Wolves away).

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Some people are asking for two contradictory things at the same time - they want more of OGH's pace and they want him to learn how to retain possession.

In my opinion, Hart looks like he's had a poor game mainly when the rest of the team are off his pace.

 

[Ernest]

Hart is all huff and no puff and is Division 3 class at best

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Always feel sorry for the way Hart's career has gone - he started out as a striker scoring 12 or so goals a season as an 18 year old in division 3. He had pace, finished well and was class in one-on-ones. Then Micky Adams put him on the wing to fill a gap and thats where he has stayed. He works hard, seems to not complain but he has never seemed like a winger - or a midfielder - to me. I wonder if he regrets not having the chance to play as a forward, I think he would have developed into a fantastic striker.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Gary Hart did a good job as a striker for us in those days - but would you ever have backed him in a one-on-one? I wouldn't, although he did do it a few times. His current position is his best position.

Lord B - to play in a decent midfield you need to be able to retain possession.

 

[the full harris]

the calibre of Brooker

Brooker is SHIT!!


on the subject of this thread, Hart is great, always puts in the effort and is fine by me.

I prefer Jones to Brooker.

 

[fatboy]

Ever since Brooker left we have lacked width. We have no wingers anymore; Jones is a full back playing out of position and Piercy belongs in a pub.

Hart is not a winger either. He was a centre forward who was never going to score at the rate of Knight or Zamora so Adams made best use of his ability by sticking him on the right of midfield where he uses his 100% effort to good effect - tackling back and his pace.

All wingers have good and bad days-you can tell how a good a game Brooker had by the colour of his shorts. I'd take him back anyday(although he only got 5/10 for Reading on Saturday.)

As Gary Nelson put - rather rudely I might add - we do have a few vegtables and cabbages in our team. If we want to go up, and stay up, the likes of Jones, Lee, Mayo and Hart will not be first team players.

 

[fatboy]

Ever since Brooker left we have lacked width. We have no wingers anymore; Jones is a full back playing out of position and Piercy belongs in a pub.

Hart is not a winger either. He was a centre forward who was never going to score at the rate of Knight or Zamora so Adams made best use of his ability by sticking him on the right of midfield where he uses his 100% effort to good effect - tackling back and his pace.

All wingers have good and bad days-you can tell how a good a game Brooker had by the colour of his shorts. I'd take him back anyday(although he only got 5/10 for Reading on Saturday.)

As Gary Nelson put - rather rudely I might add - we do have a few vegtables and cabbages in our team. If we want to go up, and stay up, the likes of Jones, Lee, Mayo and Hart will not be first team players.

 

[Pavilionaire]

This thread is bollocks.

You could go back 7 years and be saying the same things about Robbie Reinelt not being Div 2 class. The point is, he was there when it mattered and is now an Albion legend. Who's to say Harty can't do something similar at Cardiff?

You've got all summer to debate where it all went wrong and who's to blame - for now we should put all criticism to one side and get behind the lads 100%.

 

[mitch]

dkm where does your footballing nous come from? as you must have some to be prepared to open up this debate?

 

[the full harris]

Ever since Brooker left we have lacked width. We have no wingers anymore; Jones is a full back playing out of position and Piercy belongs in a pub.

Hart is not a winger either. He was a centre forward who was never going to score at the rate of Knight or Zamora so Adams made best use of his ability by sticking him on the right of midfield where he uses his 100% effort to good effect - tackling back and his pace.

All wingers have good and bad days-you can tell how a good a game Brooker had by the colour of his shorts. I'd take him back anyday(although he only got 5/10 for Reading on Saturday.)

As Gary Nelson put - rather rudely I might add - we do have a few vegtables and cabbages in our team. If we want to go up, and stay up, the likes of Jones, Lee, Mayo and Hart will not be first team players.

but most games Brooker only touched the ball a couple of times all game!! He might have been standing out wide but i don't think he generated width in the team. In fact, most games he didn't contribute much at all!

 

[fatboy]

One moment of brilliance can be a matchwinner.

In the time he was at the club he scored 15 goals. Who can better that other than Zamora?

 

[Easy 10]

This thread is bollocks.
You've got all summer to debate where it all went wrong and who's to blame - for now we should put all criticism to one side and get behind the lads 100%.

Criticism and debate is all part of football Pavilionaire, regardless of what stage of the season we are at. As long as its considered opinions and not simply abuse, I don't see the harm in debating the players on here. Get behind the lads 100% when we're at the match of course, but its a bit daft to start saying that criticising players on here is in some way "off limits" just cos we're in the middle of a scrap for the playoffs.

I hardly think a players form is going to be affected one way or the other by anything he reads on an internet messageboard (if he's sad enough to come on here in the first place).

 

[jonnyboylennon]

Gary Hart is a legend.

Its a simple fact of life.

LEGEND.