Fund run by David Cameron’s father avoided paying tax in Britain (Panama leaks)

[Hampster Gull]

I can't see how he can stay on. He's lied to the nation and fiddled the country he claims he loves so much.

 

[alfredmizen]

That is a common thing to do with your inheritance planning - it isn't even avoidance, you are just leaving your half of the estate into a trust while you're partner is still alive. It isn't an offshore avoidance scheme, or some contrived company setup.

its the same morality as the camerons, im not particularly defending either of them , just highlighting the hypocrisy of people on the left claiming the moral high ground, to be honest im sick to death of the whole bloody lot of them , genuinely.

 

[pb21]

I wonder how this all fits in with his ‘were all in this together’ guff.

Dave certainly isn’t in this with us, he is off having his own little party with its own rules and a select guest list. He has benefited in the past, who knows how much he benefits from offshore tax havens meaning he benefits from not paying his full share of UK tax, unlike the vast majority of hard working UK tax payers.

He must have some real contempt for ‘normal’ hard working UK tax payers.

 

[beorhthelm]

I wonder how this all fits in with his ‘were all in this together’ guff.

Dave certainly isn’t in this with us, he is off having his own little party with its own rules and a select guest list. He has benefited in the past, who knows how much he benefits from offshore tax havens meaning he benefits from not paying his full share of UK tax, unlike the vast majority of hard working UK tax payers.

despite his claiming that he has paid the tax due? not sure where people are going with this anymore, are you either ignoring the story as it changes or calling Cameron an outright liar, presumably with some evidence? he's certainly on shaky ground re the general principle of "doing something" about off shore finance, but seems people want to go further than that an make a lot of assumption.

classic attitude on the subject was Toynbee on Newsnight, calling for everyone to have income and tax made public. when challenged would she, the reply was after you. ok then, thats going to help the discussion move forward, all mouth no trousers. so who's up for it then, all income and assets publicly available for anyone to see?

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Seriously, who cares? That's perhaps one of the most sadenning comments in this thread.

Thank you. Feels like it is another attempt to make political ground on a personal issue. I mean shock, horror the PM or even an MP is economical with the truth on personal finances. Is it any of our business?

All feels a bit desperate to me by Labour and I would suggest, there's plenty of other areas they can focus their efforts in. NHS, cuts to welfare....

For me, it does not make one iota of difference on his ability or inability to run the country.

 

[glasfryn]

Is it only Pm's that can be taken to task then ? FYG Ive got no time for Cameron, but they are ALL at it , and by all, I mean all parties.

we agree again
difference is most hide it and hide it well and do not preach about how tax avoidance/evation is then try desperatley to keep it from the public for 5 days
he could have put it into a British bank (other than Northern Rock) but chose to put it into a bank in Panama
he is a slippery bar steward and needs to go, trouble is finding a replacement who is at least perceived to be honest.
I would hate to be in the cabinet office when someone says "hands up anyone who does not have some hidden money,OK you at the back can you do it"
they are all at it ..........................it just depends at what degree.............find my thread on "trust"

 

[drew]

despite his claiming that he has paid the tax due? not sure where people are going with this anymore, are you either ignoring the story as it changes or calling Cameron an outright liar, presumably with some evidence? he's certainly on shaky ground re the general principle of "doing something" about off shore finance, but seems people want to go further than that an make a lot of assumption.

classic attitude on the subject was Toynbee on Newsnight, calling for everyone to have income and tax made public. when challenged would she, the reply was after you. ok then, thats going to help the discussion move forward, all mouth no trousers. so who's up for it then, all income and assets publicly available for anyone to see?

The story isn't whether or not he paid the tax due, it is that he had shares in an offshore company in tax haven and when asked about it the truth, so far as he has declared it, has had to be dragged out of him and/or his office. The last statement is that he will not benefit from these types of arrangements in the future which is an admission that he has benefited from them in the past. He and his wife are also likely to inherit a lot from her dad so if he is involved in any offshore funds they will benefit from that in the future.

All this coupled with the fact that he has berated other celebrities for their use of tax havens doesn't look good.

As was said on QT last night, it's similar to when he denied going riding with Brooks, then admitted a vague recollection of going then eventually admitting that he rode an ex Police horse, Raisa, that had been on loan to the Brooks.

That said it is understandable why all the tory boys on here wish to brush such scandals under the carpet with the phrase 'move on, nothing to see here'!!!!

 

[glasfryn]

Thank you. Feels like it is another attempt to make political ground on a personal issue. I mean shock, horror the PM or even an MP is economical with the truth on personal finances. Is it any of our business?

All feels a bit desperate to me by Labour and I would suggest, there's plenty of other areas they can focus their efforts in. NHS, cuts to welfare....

For me, it does not make one iota of difference on his ability or inability to run the country.

meanwhile your taxes go to saving the NHS and his does/did not
Labour do not need to press him to go, his own party will do that for them

 

[glasfryn]

The story isn't whether or not he paid the tax due, it is that he had shares in an offshore company in tax haven and when asked about it the truth, so far as he has declared it, has had to be dragged out of him and/or his office. The last statement is that he will not benefit from these types of arrangements in the future which is an admission that he has benefited from them in the past. He and his wife are also likely to inherit a lot from her dad so if he is involved in any offshore funds they will benefit from that in the future.

All this coupled with the fact that he has berated other celebrities for their use of tax havens doesn't look good.

As was said on QT last night, it's similar to when he denied going riding with Brooks, then admitted a vague recollection of going then eventually admitting that he rode an ex Police horse, Raisa, that had been on loan to the Brooks.

That said it is understandable why all the tory boys on here wish to brush such scandals under the carpet with the phrase 'move on, nothing to see here'!!!!

he can't even remember which football team he supports, now that really is indefensible

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

meanwhile your taxes go to saving the NHS and his does/did not
Labour do not need to press him to go, his own party will do that for them

But they did though from the £30k he sold.

In terms of his own party, inevitably there will be hidden agenda's anyway re Europe, so probably they will.

 

[Easy 10]

The story isn't whether or not he paid the tax due, it is that he had shares in an offshore company in tax haven and when asked about it the truth, so far as he has declared it, has had to be dragged out of him and/or his office. The last statement is that he will not benefit from these types of arrangements in the future which is an admission that he has benefited from them in the past. He and his wife are also likely to inherit a lot from her dad so if he is involved in any offshore funds they will benefit from that in the future.

All this coupled with the fact that he has berated other celebrities for their use of tax havens doesn't look good.

As was said on QT last night, it's similar to when he denied going riding with Brooks, then admitted a vague recollection of going then eventually admitting that he rode an ex Police horse, Raisa, that had been on loan to the Brooks.

That said it is understandable why all the tory boys on here wish to brush such scandals under the carpet with the phrase 'move on, nothing to see here'!!!!

Nicely summed up.

As Dave is at pains to point out, he's not done anything that's against the rules. But just the same as the Googles, Amazons and Jimmy Carrs of this world, he and his family have quietly benefited from using offshore tax havens to avoid paying UK tax - at the same time as telling everyone his government is going to get tough and "clamp down" on the loopholes that allow this to happen.

In other words, he's a snidey, conniving hypocrite, and probably feels greatly affronted at having to spend all week trying to justify himself to the oiks.

 

[beorhthelm]

The story isn't whether or not he paid the tax due, it is that he had shares in an offshore company in tax haven and when asked about it the truth, so far as he has declared it, has had to be dragged out of him and/or his office.

absolutely. so why do people keeping about the tax and whether or not some have been paid, avoided or whatever? like a certain other story and probably a few others beside, people are inventing their own narrative which diverges from what we know, to be regurgitated as fact for the next decade.

 

[Ernest]

 

[sparkie]

What happens if Cameron resigns next week ?

He must feel like walking away.

They can't really have a leadership contest at the same time as a referendum can they ?

It would seem like a mess if they did.

 

[drew]

I'm not going to condone what he's done but where has it been said that he inherited the shares? I thought he bought into the company with an investment of about £12k in 1997 which was then sold before 2010 for about £30k.

It's stupid false comments like these that play right into the hands of the tory boys on here!!!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Nicely summed up.

As Dave is at pains to point out, he's not done anything that's against the rules. But just the same as the Googles, Amazons and Jimmy Carrs of this world, he and his family have quietly benefited from using offshore tax havens to avoid paying UK tax - at the same time as telling everyone his government is going to get tough and "clamp down" on the loopholes that allow this to happen.

In other words, he's a snidey, conniving hypocrite, and probably feels greatly affronted at having to spend all week trying to justify himself to the oiks.

And let's not forget he personally lobbied the EU in favour of these same trust funds.

 

[nicko31]

Can't believe the attention this is getting. The guy has done nothing wrong at all, if there's UK tax to be paid its been paid.

 

[Easy 10]

Can't believe the attention this is getting. The guy has done nothing wrong at all, if there's UK tax to be paid its been paid.

Try reading the thread.

 

[Ernest]

Another Trust Fund been dug up by C4 news tonight whilst Mrs Cameron is spunking £50k a year away on some tart to advice her what frock to wear, unbelievable

 

[gregbrighton]

Another Trust Fund been dug up by C4 news tonight whilst Mrs Cameron is spunking £50k a year away on some tart to advice her what frock to wear, unbelievable

Spunking up £50k of British taxpayers money on her style advisor.