Lower West Stander
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Whenever I see someone use the word conglomerate, I know what's coming....
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Whenever I see someone use the word conglomerate, I know what's coming....
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Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Yep, the usual predictable hogwash and whataboutery.
This has nothing whatsoever to do with "OUR" politicians, businessmen and media conglomerates (which apparently only seem to apply to the likes of us, and not you), so I'm not even sure why you've dragged all that into it.
This is a story about a fit and able couple actively pursuing a lifestyle that relies entirely on the indulgence of people who actually work and pay their taxes. They are the very definition of spongers. You're obviously perfectly ok with this indulgence they enjoy, but its a very curious stance to take. If everyone on the planet decided to live their lives like these herberts, we'd all end up back in the stone age.
If thats an attractive scenario to you, then I think you'll find you're in a fairly tiny minority.
Hastings gull
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- Nov 23, 2013
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And I think we can work out why.
I'm struggling slightly with this story.
Now, I've been fortunate in that I've not needed government help in the form of benefits and similar thus far and, as such, my knowledge of what is available and how you get it is pretty sketchy.
However, these people are, presumably, not getting anything they are not entitled to and, unlike the tired cliche of "spending all their benefits on booze, fags, big TVs and smartphones" they are living frugally, to some extent, in order that they can pursue a different lifestyle altogether.
If you want to blame anyone/any thing here, shouldn't it be the benefits system that permits what you see as abuse?
Now, I've been fortunate in that I've not needed government help in the form of benefits and similar thus far and, as such, my knowledge of what is available and how you get it is pretty sketchy.
However, these people are, presumably, not getting anything they are not entitled to and, unlike the tired cliche of "spending all their benefits on booze, fags, big TVs and smartphones" they are living frugally, to some extent, in order that they can pursue a different lifestyle altogether.
If you want to blame anyone/any thing here, shouldn't it be the benefits system that permits what you see as abuse?
FatSuperman
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- Feb 25, 2016
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But we’ll never be able to build a system that removes all possible manipulation, not without adversely hurting / hindering the people that truly need help. People that take advantage of the ambiguity are actively causing the politicians to make the sort of cuts that are wrecking lives. Benefits cheats are just as disgusting as corrupt 1%’ers
Soul Finger
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- May 12, 2004
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Not everyone has a perfect life and the benefits system is vital.
But, as with everything, people take the piss.
I'm far more concerned about the piss-taking going on by big corporations and politicians than by a work-shy couple with hairy pits.
But, as with everything, people take the piss.
I'm far more concerned about the piss-taking going on by big corporations and politicians than by a work-shy couple with hairy pits.
Mr Putdown
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Turns out it was a poor rehash of an article that was originally in the Sun [The Argus referred to Fabulous Digital which turns out to be the Sun]
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/10440963/off-grid-family-matt-adele-allen/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/10440963/off-grid-family-matt-adele-allen/
But are they cheating?
Unlike others, I've never heard of these people before, but they're hardly slipping under the radar for any organisation that wishes to ensure they are not cheating.
Should the benefits system only give those who use it the very bare minimum to live off, with no contingency at all? How is that undertaken when people will use money differently, with some making better use of limited funds than others?
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Take the kids into care to give them a sporting chance at life and let the f*ckwit parents noodle away forever, ideally at their own expense. Fat chance of that tho eh? It's always Off-Grid and always On-Benefits. Muppets.
- Apr 5, 2014
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Ooh, ooh, when's the 'anging. I'll bring a packed lunch.
There should be a few spaces as a lot of those in Argus Comments will have had seizures when hysterically responding to the article.
Don't you just love it when this sort of thing is shared. The sense of self-righteous outrage is so beautiful.
I'm just of for my Daily Mail now. I'll be back for an injection of indignation in a bit.
There should be a few spaces as a lot of those in Argus Comments will have had seizures when hysterically responding to the article.
Don't you just love it when this sort of thing is shared. The sense of self-righteous outrage is so beautiful.
I'm just of for my Daily Mail now. I'll be back for an injection of indignation in a bit.
They're not though are they:
"Matt stated that they were using their benefits to save up and build a “remote” home and live off nature."
Ok, so that's what they want, but it sounds like they don't have the money required to pay for it. I'd imagine it won't cost peanuts.
kjgood
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So at the age of nearly 65 having worked every day since I was 15, I out of the house at 7 am this morning on my way to nine or so hours work to earn the tax that keeps this guy and family. Yea great!!!!!
Should be a good one today. Local couple.
Assuming when they’re “off grid” and self sustained they will forfeit their associated housing and heating benefits to someone who is in need?
- Apr 5, 2014
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'I was having a vegan bake and all I said was this is tasty enough for anyone on benefits'
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Chill out. It’s a long standing tradition on NSC to laugh at this family. If it displeases you so intensely, don’t read, don’t post.
It’s not a political thread.
Jesus wept, any excuse to have a meltdown. NSC really has become a fetid grief hole this last year. Full of sensitive, easily offended , wallys.
This couple are publicly declaring they will not look for work. Yet are still in receipt of housing and jobseekers. Yeah, I think I that’s out of order. As for your other childish ranting? It belongs on another thread.
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Yeah, I think so. Just squirrelling away housing benefits . Which seems odd if they have to pay their rent out if that. One wonders if perhaps they’re earning more than they declare?
Two Professors
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Should be left alone to do their own thing (once sterilised and kids taken into care).
He said it again!