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lyndon

New member
Nov 12, 2006
79
i was sickened on saturday at the lack of support AGAIN from our fans. i got annoyed that 7000 people go to a football match to sit in silence, great afternoon out. there were about 30 people it seemed in the ground that would either be shouting encouragement or showing their disgust at a rubbish performance, 1 of them being me while everyone just sits down muttering under their breath.

i think if 7000 people got on the teams back rather than 30 it might actually work.

a clear sign that people don't care enough about the club to voice their opinions.
 






Conkers

Well-known member
Jan 11, 2006
4,574
Haywards Heath
There were so many part-timers SO intent on not singing that apart from the usual few people in the H block singing, it was just me and Djmiles at the back trying to get some sort of singing going on (which didn't happen because most people would either laugh or give you funny looks).
I was hoping the bumper crowd wouldn't affect the atmosphere, clearly it did. Long live high ticket prices and low attendances :jester:
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Being one of these bad fans I'm of the opinion that the team need to come out and look interested rather than be put on the back foot from the off as happened on Saturday. If your team don't have the ball and are 2nd to every tackle in the 1st ten minutes they really can't expect the crowd to be singing and getting enthusiastic.

An away game is totally different imo, I expect us to be on the back foot from the off and gradually work our way into the game as the home team come at us.

If the Albion started home games looking like the home side and not the away side I think you'd hear a MASSIVE difference in the support the crowd give them

Flame away
 


clippedgull

Hotdogs, extra onions
Aug 11, 2003
20,789
Near Ducks, Geese, and Seagulls
Being one of these bad fans I'm of the opinion that the team need to come out and look interested rather than be put on the back foot from the off as happened on Saturday. If your team don't have the ball and are 2nd to every tackle in the 1st ten minutes they really can't expect the crowd to be singing and getting enthusiastic.

An away game is totally different imo, I expect us to be on the back foot from the off and gradually work our way into the game as the home team come at us.

If the Albion started home games looking like the home side and not the away side I think you'd hear a MASSIVE difference in the support the crwod give them

Flame away

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When the team have done that this season the crowd generally have been vocal.

I think some people forget that we the supporters pay to be entertained and excited by our team!

OK, I accept the abject performance was a one off, but how can anybody get enthused by a performance that had Port Vales chances gone in would have seen us defeated by at least 6 goals! FREAKY!!!!!!
 




Mendoza

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i was sickened on saturday at the lack of support AGAIN from our fans. i got annoyed that 7000 people go to a football match to sit in silence, great afternoon out. there were about 30 people it seemed in the ground that would either be shouting encouragement or showing their disgust at a rubbish performance, 1 of them being me while everyone just sits down muttering under their breath.

i think if 7000 people got on the teams back rather than 30 it might actually work.

a clear sign that people don't care enough about the club to voice their opinions.


That is exactly why AWAY games are better, yes there usually under 700 of us, but we all get behind the team, sing our hearts out and support them with every song being sung
 


Silent Bob

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Dec 6, 2004
22,172
Being one of these bad fans I'm of the opinion that the team need to come out and look interested rather than be put on the back foot from the off as happened on Saturday. If your team don't have the ball and are 2nd to every tackle in the 1st ten minutes they really can't expect the crowd to be singing and getting enthusiastic.

An away game is totally different imo, I expect us to be on the back foot from the off and gradually work our way into the game as the home team come at us.

If the Albion started home games looking like the home side and not the away side I think you'd hear a MASSIVE difference in the support the crowd give them

Flame away
It's hard to disagree with that. The most surprising thing is that people seem to think their might be an atmosphere even when we start so badly! Things that get the atmosphere going at Withdean are usually - an offensively bad ref (ref was quite bad Saturday but not in a way to get everyone on their feet abusing him), a nasty/cheating away side, or when we build up a head of attacking steam for a while without scoring, or any combination of the three. And that's pretty much the same for ANY ground in the country. You're never going to get the constant singing of an away game at home.
 


British Bulldog

The great escape
Feb 6, 2006
10,974
I dont like getting on the players back ( booing etc ) as I dont think it's constructive, But then again saturdays performance left me nothing to get excited or supportive about. Consequently I was left sat in silence feeling very bored and wishing I'd stayed at home.
 




Scotty Mac

New member
Jul 13, 2003
24,405
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When the team have done that this season the crowd generally have been vocal.

I think some people forget that we the supporters pay to be entertained and excited by our team!

OK, I accept the abject performance was a one off, but how can anybody get enthused by a performance that had Port Vales chances gone in would have seen us defeated by at least 6 goals! FREAKY!!!!!!

spot on :clap: :clap: :clap:
 


rusty redeyes

New member
Feb 26, 2007
677
Portslade, The Blue Anchor
i was sickened on saturday at the lack of support AGAIN from our fans. i got annoyed that 7000 people go to a football match to sit in silence, great afternoon out. there were about 30 people it seemed in the ground that would either be shouting encouragement or showing their disgust at a rubbish performance, 1 of them being me while everyone just sits down muttering under their breath.

i think if 7000 people got on the teams back rather than 30 it might actually work.

a clear sign that people don't care enough about the club to voice their opinions.


Couldn't agree more. I had the misfortune to be sat in C block next to some 50yr old numbnut and his Dad. The numbnut only shouted out what anyone else was saying apart from "Come on Mr Wilkins" in a Mr Bean type voice, most bizarre and his poncho stunk to high heaven!
 






lyndon

New member
Nov 12, 2006
79
i was in C block too. soo annoying.
i know we like toi be entertained but thats clearly not going to be the case all the time. we should be looking to get into the game as well, we not always going to be excited by the performance so sometimes getting on the players back does them good.

on saturdays performance they looked like a bunch of overpaid, lazy players that didn't want promotion. i have seen the other side of them this season when they have looked quality but we can't expect that every week unfortunately.
 




supaseagull

Well-known member
Feb 19, 2004
9,614
The United Kingdom of Mile Oak
i was sickened on saturday at the lack of support AGAIN from our fans. i got annoyed that 7000 people go to a football match to sit in silence, great afternoon out. there were about 30 people it seemed in the ground that would either be shouting encouragement or showing their disgust at a rubbish performance, 1 of them being me while everyone just sits down muttering under their breath.

i think if 7000 people got on the teams back rather than 30 it might actually work.

a clear sign that people don't care enough about the club to voice their opinions.


Why the surprise? Our home support has always been less than vocal and that was no different when we were at the Goldstone. It makes the so called "singing section" look pretty lame when they are being outsung by the Family Stand!!!
 




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I think some people forget that we the supporters pay to be entertained and excited by our team!

If that is the sole reason you got to football you are going to be sorely disappointed most weeks. That attitude makes you a spectator, a consumer of the football product, not a supporter. I can remember when going to the game meant a good laugh with your mates and CREATING an atmosphere supporting your team or even just providing some gallows humour to get you through another dire afternoon.

Now CG, I am not suggesting that you specifically are not a supporter, but was merely having a go at the current culture of expectation that pervades most of football these days. The support at Leeds was phenomenal and it was a strictly old school atmosphere of backing the team and belittling the opposition, and whilst we played well it wasn't really the most entertaining of games.

I think most people are overreacting to an exceptionally bad performance, we have proved on numerous occasions this seasons that we are better than that, and that promise for the future is what we should be concentrating on. And FFS the season hasn't actually ended yet, an unlikely win tomorrow and we can limp on for another week with hope in our hearts.
 


eastlondonseagull

Well-known member
Jan 15, 2004
13,385
West Yorkshire
If that is the sole reason you got to football you are going to be sorely disappointed most weeks. That attitude makes you a spectator, a consumer of the football product, not a supporter. I can remember when going to the game meant a good laugh with your mates and CREATING an atmosphere supporting your team or even just providing some gallows humour to get you through another dire afternoon.

Now CG, I am not suggesting that you specifically are not a supporter, but was merely having a go at the current culture of expectation that pervades most of football these days. The support at Leeds was phenomenal and it was a strictly old school atmosphere of backing the team and belittling the opposition, and whilst we played well it wasn't really the most entertaining of games.

I think most people are overreacting to an exceptionally bad performance, we have proved on numerous occasions this seasons that we are better than that, and that promise for the future is what we should be concentrating on. And FFS the season hasn't actually ended yet, an unlikely win tomorrow and we can limp on for another week with hope in our hearts.

Well said that man. Perfectly put.

:clap: :clap:

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Spiros

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
2,376
Too far from the sun
Saw a lot of unfamiliar faces around my part of C block on Saturday. Two sat near me started barracking Wilkins after less than 3 minutes with the highly supportive 'Wilkins you're crap, we should be burying this lot'. They spent the entire game slagging off various players, though they weren't quite sure who Racon was at first, and reserved their biggest applause for Vale's third goal.

Now I know we didn't exactly fly out of the blocks, but to start the moaning after 3 minutes is just a tad early in my book.

From overhearing some of the conversations on the way out, it seems that the occasional fans these days are more used to seeing the kind of football that's dished up on Sky, either in the Champs league or the Premier League. They simply can't handle 'real' football, so when the free transfer journeyman or youth team graduate makes a poor pass they yell at them as if we'd paid 20 million for them. It's the 3rd division, and not even the top at that - just what DO you expect?
 


Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,300
If that is the sole reason you got to football you are going to be sorely disappointed most weeks. That attitude makes you a spectator, a consumer of the football product, not a supporter. I can remember when going to the game meant a good laugh with your mates and CREATING an atmosphere supporting your team or even just providing some gallows humour to get you through another dire afternoon.

Now CG, I am not suggesting that you specifically are not a supporter, but was merely having a go at the current culture of expectation that pervades most of football these days. The support at Leeds was phenomenal and it was a strictly old school atmosphere of backing the team and belittling the opposition, and whilst we played well it wasn't really the most entertaining of games.

I think most people are overreacting to an exceptionally bad performance, we have proved on numerous occasions this seasons that we are better than that, and that promise for the future is what we should be concentrating on. And FFS the season hasn't actually ended yet, an unlikely win tomorrow and we can limp on for another week with hope in our hearts.

Agree, with you

Another thing though is at away games, the atmosphere is there before the match starts, not as a result of how much action thre is and/or level of performance the teams producing - why can't fans make posiative noise before the game starts and as it starts, rather than wait for the game to pick up?
 




Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,300
i was in C block too. soo annoying.
i know we like toi be entertained but thats clearly not going to be the case all the time. we should be looking to get into the game as well, we not always going to be excited by the performance so sometimes getting on the players back does them good.

on saturdays performance they looked like a bunch of overpaid, lazy players that didn't want promotion. i have seen the other side of them this season when they have looked quality but we can't expect that every week unfortunately.

Surely it would be far more effective to try to encourage the team, not criticise individual players, maybe the lack of atmosphere when returning to Withdean as the match started, compared to the great atmospheres at Forrest and Leeds had contributed to the poor start.

which do you think will inspire a player on to play better - everyone chantin something like GOSBTS or similar, or shouts from the crowd after an error, demanding players be subbed, or is never good enough.
 


eastlondonseagull

Well-known member
Jan 15, 2004
13,385
West Yorkshire
Surely it would be far more effective to try to encourage the team, not criticise individual players, maybe the lack of atmosphere when returning to Withdean as the match started, compared to the great atmospheres at Forrest and Leeds had contributed to the poor start.

which do you think will inspire a player on to play better - everyone chantin something like GOSBTS or similar, or shouts from the crowd after an error, demanding players be subbed, or is never good enough.

Absolutely. Imagine you're a player, in the tunnel at Elland Road, preparing to run out onto the pitch, listening to the Albion roar. You'd be fired up, prepared to give it your all, full in the knowledge that the supporters will do exactly that - SUPPORT YOU - when you're playing.

Now contrast that to Withdean, the deathly silence out in the stands, the few positive songs drowned out by whingeing ****s who've started moaning about the performance before the game's even kicked off.

It's a wonder the players run out at all, let alone play well.

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