Fozzy On Saturday - His Final Argus Column

[Hungry Joe]

Credit to you for saying that - I was beginning to think NF had stolen your last rolo for all the overly-harsh criticism you've written about him of late.
So come and join the majority of us on the other side where we all adore NF because, frankly, he WAS the main-man at our club. A true professional and our best player in recent times by a country mile

Thanks for the credit but I think if you re-read the few posts I've made on the subject that I have stated my admiration for him as a player, which was all the more reason why I felt let down over his contract actions. Those were not the actions of a true professional. I tend to save my adoration for people close to me or those who have done great things for humanity. Nicky is a very good footballer and a decent bloke and I'm glad he played for us. But what is done is done and we move on.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Unfortunately, there are things that go on at a club that the fans have no idea about, and this is one of them.

On the face of it, it's unfortunate for him that he was lumped in with everybody else in the "play for your contract" policy. Arguably, he deserved to be treated as an exception because of his top scorer / captaincy status and overall record. On the other hand, if the guy was an old, dispensable, disruptive prick then you can see Gus's logic.

As a fan all I can say is "Thanks for the goals, and all the best at Charlton".

In fact he could do us a big favour by scoring them to promotion, as this will remove one big rival from the division next season.

 

[clippedgull]

Footballers words don't mean a lot.

Agree. I'm sure if you looked back when they leave other clubs, most of the stuff is repeated.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Credit to you for saying that - I was beginning to think NF had stolen your last rolo for all the overly-harsh criticism you've written about him of late.
So come and join the majority of us on the other side where we all adore NF because, frankly, he WAS the main-man at our club. A true professional and our best player in recent times by a country mile

Is the only part I have problems with ....

 

[drew]

What are you on about there? Gus is the most open and honest manager we've had in some time.

Nicky Forster was a very good player for the club, but in the end he was responsible for his departure. Nobody else.

Yeah right. Gus Poyet will let people know what he thinks they need to know. Ask him if, before the SSN reports, if he had told Nicky Forster that he wasn't getting a contract and that he could go on loan if he wanted.

More like Forster's artical has sucked in the less intelligent ones and they have fallen for it hook line and sinker.
The best way to come across is to mention your love for the club and the biggy.......his goal ratio.

He is trying to bail out without egg on his face simples.

As opposed to those even less intelligent ones who believe every word that Poyet says or every rumour that anti Forster posters write. Don't see that there is anything wrong with the article, quite clearly acknowledges that his relationship with Poyet was strained, probably even more so when El Abd got his contract.

Reading between the lines of some things that have been posted on here ( and with absolutely no personal inside info or proof ) it seems he MAY have been a bit of a disruptive influence in the dressing room?

He is a senior pro who has, in the main, played at a higher level than most of his team mates. Exactly when has he been disruptive influence on the other players. As for 'reading between the lines' perhaps you should reserve this practice just for statements made by those involved, ie Forster and Poyet rather than the vast amount of supposition from other NSC posters.

He disrespected the club by going to the press and broke the chain of command, you cant have the tail wagging the dog and other players at other clubs have recently been dropped the same way who have broken that unwritten law. The bloke was a prat, great player in his day but still a prat and old enough and wise enough i thought to know better. "Stuck up his own arse" a bit too much me thinks and more than a germ of truth in too much player power these days.

 

[drew]

Agree. I'm sure if you looked back when they leave other clubs, most of the stuff is repeated.

True but then the same can be said of managers. With the exceptions of Wenger, Fergusson, Moyles and O'Gradi, they all are either sacked within 3/4 years or jump ship to a better offer.

The only constant in football are the fans.

 

[clippedgull]

The only constant in football are the fans.

Exactly.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

As opposed to those even less intelligent ones who believe every word that Poyet says or every rumour that anti Forster posters write. Don't see that there is anything wrong with the article, quite clearly acknowledges that his relationship with Poyet was strained, probably even more so when El Abd got his contract.

As opposed to those less intelligent ones who believe every word that Forster says or writes is true .......

I suspect that Gus thought Forster was the ultimate professional and would take it like the professional he is ... obviously not.

 

[NMH]

I believe that NF was so much a part of The Albion and with ambitions that basically paralleled those of managers, and particularly Gus. That he thought himself almost capable of doing their job, was to work against him.
Whether it's a lesson learned - I have to imagine not, and probably not until he tries management himself and has to deal with the opinions of senior players.

Yes, he's been a great Albion servant - but the best made plans cannot account, in football, for the swift changes and shakey ground that a manager has to deal on.

Very best of luck to him, in everything he strives to achieve - and maybe we will see him again in some capacity. As a squad member though, he was never going to get his way over Gus's way - and no one player is great enough to unsettle a whole squad, not one.

 

[Pavilionaire]

The only constant in football are the fans.

Tell that to the Ebbsfleet chairman...

 

[NMH]

True but then the same can be said of managers. With the exceptions of Wenger, Fergusson, Moyles and O'Gradi, they all are either sacked within 3/4 years or jump ship to a better offer.

The only constant in football are the fans.

How true. And stranger by the fact that fans have the least 'tied' to their club in terms of profession, but the most involved in life and spirit and emotion.
(that includes players who are also fans, they count as constants too - i.e. Rooney to Everton, he'll never be 'a MUFC fan').
It stands as proof that money is nothing, when compared to spiritual and emotional values.

 

[Sheebo]

I do find it odd that he and everyone omatically assumes he won't be coming back...

What if he bangs in 10 goals in 8 games with Charlton? He is still technically our player...

Good to see he loves the club and he has been brilliant for us...

 

[NMH]

I do find it odd that he and everyone omatically assumes he won't be coming back...

Great new word there!
See if you can get it registered

 

[Cecil]

I do find it odd that he and everyone omatically assumes he won't be coming back...

What if he bangs in 10 goals in 8 games with Charlton? He is still technically our player...

Good to see he loves the club and he has been brilliant for us...

Gus simply doesn't fancy him, he won't be back under Gus for sure......

 

[Sheebo]

Great new word there!
See if you can get it registered

Sorry my keyboard occasionally isn't quick enough for my typing!!!

AUTOMATICALLY is what I mean

 

[Sheebo]

Gus simply doesn't fancy him, he won't be back under Gus for sure......

Which of his 16 odd goals this season was your fav Cecil?

 

[drew]

As opposed to those less intelligent ones who believe every word that Forster says or writes is true .......

I suspect that Gus thought Forster was the ultimate professional and would take it like the professional he is ... obviously not.

I was just responding to the idiot who starts suggesting that anyone who read the article and is not in the 'gus is god' camp must be of lesser intelligence. Fact is the only two people that know the truth are Poyet and Forster. Almost everything else is supposition or spin leaked by either side.

Unfortunately, the 'gus is god' brigade believe he can do no wrong and resorted to insulting a player who has served us well for two and half years.

 

[Sheebo]

Well said Drew - nobody really knows

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

the 'gus is god' brigade

A stupid thing to say. Are you the 'forster is god' brigade ?

More like 'give the new manager the benefit of the doubt because it is his first job and he is learning his trade and needs to set out his disciplinary stall for the sake of the club and we can't have the lunatics running the asylum brigade'.

 

[drew]

A stupid thing to say. Are you the 'forster is god' brigade ?

More like 'give the new manager the benefit of the doubt because it is his first job and he is learning his trade and needs to set out his disciplinary stall for the sake of the club and we can't have the lunatics running the asylum brigade'.

Not really stupid as I think you answer the question in the second paragraph. I'm all for keeping Poyet as Manager but as you say, he is learning his trade and I therefore expect a few mistakes along the way. There is having faith that he will improve and carry us along with him and there is blind faith that he can do no wrong. I'm not saying everyone who is against Forster is in the 'blind faith' brigade but you have to admit that quite a few of them have posted on here over the last couple of weeks.


PS, no player is god in my view. There again, I don't believe in any god anyway.