[Football] Football players mis-remembering their accomplishments

[AZ Gull]

Exhibit A:

Earlier today I came across an interview with former Albion youngster Micky Conway (who made a couple of first team appearances in the early '70s). This is what he had to say about how he was spotted by the club:-

Being the nerd that I am, I like to make notes about former Albion bit-part players so I went looking for a contemporary report of this match. This is taken from the Albion programme against Aston Villa on March 25 1972:-

So: Conway remembers that his team Westdene "hammered" the Albion youth team and he scored a hat-trick. In actual fact, his team lost 3-2 and he only scored one of their goals!

Exhibit B:

Hamish Morrison is a former Albion scholar (between 2016 and 2018) who, after being released, had a season with Hamilton Academical before returning to Sussex and the non-league scene. On October 25 2022 there was an interview with him on the Whitehawk FC website which contained this nugget:-

Morrison genuinely seems to believe that he made one first team appearance for the Albion, in the league cup. He didn't. That appearance (wearing the no. 74 shirt) was for the Albion U-23s against Oxford United in the group stages of the Checkatrade Trophy. He only made 4 appearances for the U-23s in total, and two of those were in the Sussex Senior Cup. He was nowhere near making an Albion first team appearance.

I'm sure both these interviews were given in good faith, but it just goes to show how unreliable the human mind is when it comes to remembering things (that are pretty significant in an individual's life)!

 

[tjg]

I can remember Micky Conway making his debut and thinking he was brilliant and destined to go all the way to the top. Then he never played for us again. I thought the same about Rohan Ince... Clearly, I'm a good judge of talent.

 

[Papak]

Stalker...

 

[GrossTurn]

In fairness to Morrison I guess the Football League Trophy did used to be a first team competition for Albion not all that long ago and he would’ve played against Oxford’s first team at least (?). Maybe a slight disconnect between the question asked and the answer given. Though he does obviously say league cup in his answer despite all that!

I guess it goes to show that despite the undeniable talent and dedication it must’ve taken to get even as far as they did in the game, some folk just aren’t “all there” when it comes to the important details..

 

[timbha]

I think they embellish their achievements a little bit, then a bit more, then people start to quote their achievements, and then they start to I believe it. Or they are just liars.

 

[Yes Chef]

I like how someone called Hamish played for Hamilton

 

[AZ Gull]

I like how someone called Hamish played for Hamilton

His dad grew up in the Outer Hebrides, and when Hamish was a scholar at Albion his grandmother still lived there, so not a big surprise to see him play in Scotland at some point.

 

[Peacehaven Wild Kids]

I like how someone called Hamish played for Hamilton

Does it matter? It’s purely academical

 

[Winker]

I like how someone called Hamish played for Hamilton

and if his forefathers had played for Forfar.

 

[jcdenton08]

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Too many to list here, but he was later diagnosed with dementia, which may well have played a part.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

His dad grew up in the Outer Hebrides, and when Hamish was a scholar at Albion his grandmother still lived there, so not a big surprise to see him play in Scotland at some point.

Unless I’m mistaken Hamish’s Dad is still a season ticket holder in the West Upper.

 

[AZ Gull]

Unless I’m mistaken Hamish’s Dad is still a season ticket holder in the West Upper.

I wonder if HE thinks his son once played for the Albion first team.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Exhibit A:

Earlier today I came across an interview with former Albion youngster Micky Conway (who made a couple of first team appearances in the early '70s). This is what he had to say about how he was spotted by the club:-

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Being the nerd that I am, I like to make notes about former Albion bit-part players so I went looking for a contemporary report of this match. This is taken from the Albion programme against Aston Villa on March 25 1972:-

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So: Conway remembers that his team Westdene "hammered" the Albion youth team and he scored a hat-trick. In actual fact, his team lost 3-2 and he only scored one of their goals!

Exhibit B:

Hamish Morrison is a former Albion scholar (between 2016 and 2018) who, after being released, had a season with Hamilton Academical before returning to Sussex and the non-league scene. On October 25 2022 there was an interview with him on the Whitehawk FC website which contained this nugget:-

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Morrison genuinely seems to believe that he made one first team appearance for the Albion, in the league cup. He didn't. That appearance (wearing the no. 74 shirt) was for the Albion U-23s against Oxford United in the group stages of the Checkatrade Trophy. He only made 4 appearances for the U-23s in total, and two of those were in the Sussex Senior Cup. He was nowhere near making an Albion first team appearance.

I'm sure both these interviews were given in good faith, but it just goes to show how unreliable the human mind is when it comes to remembering things (that are pretty significant in an individual's life)!

Christ.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

and if his forefathers had played for Forfar.

A piper from East Fife once scored five against Forfar who scored four.

 

[lasvegan]

A piper from East Five once scored five against Forfar who scored four.

East Fife maybe?

 

[Happy Exile]

I love this as an idea for a thread. I wonder if there are some who misremember the other way because they've won so much that they don't remember something that would be hugely significant for most? I remember an interview with a Man United player who said that when they won the FA Cup, perhaps 2004, there was very little celebrating and they were on the coach after the game behaving the same as if they'd just won a league game and it was nothing special, just another trophy and medal to go along with the rest. He said he actually had guilt at how little emotion he felt while knowing what it would have meant to players in other teams.

(A good pub quiz fact adjacent to this is that Rio Ferdinand never won the FA Cup despite winning just about everything else, because he was banned that year...he's since said he went through his career not knowing where most of his winners medals were because they weren't important to him and he always felt they wouldn't be until he retired...except for always wanting an FA Cup one more than anything else.)

 

[Van Cleef]

Listening to Robbie Savage big himself up on co-comms most games, you'd think he was a cross between Maradonna and Cruyff.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

East Fife maybe?

Try saying East Fife four, Forfar Five quickly and that's what happens.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

A piper from East Five once scored five against Forfar who scored four.

So that wasn’t the match which finished East Fife 4, Forfar 5 ……
……..- which has happened

 

[tomfitzz]

(Video) Ashley Williams accuses Liverpool fans of ‘horrible’ hate mail after match that didn’t exist

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Apologies for non-Albion related, but here's a good one from this week that came out; Ashley Williams making up a story about hate he received on the back of a game that never actually happened.