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Ferdinand says that Terry was 'blatantly racist'



beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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Anton said he didnt hear Terry's comments.

'I had no idea it had happened until I left the ground. It was pretty shocking. It’s crazy, I can’t believe it.'
[Anton] Ferdinand added in the People: 'I don’t need to say anything, it’s all on YouTube, everyone can see what he said. What do you think he said? Look, it’s with the FA now.'

but now his brother can tell us something is blantant???

putting aside the person involved i find the trial by youtube very concerning.
 




dgh123

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I think that youtube is good for things like this, as, if Anton Ferdinand really didn't hear it then now he can press charges, because otherwise Terry wouldn't be punished for something he did.
 


pasty

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Jul 5, 2003
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He would carry on playing as he has never been racist to any player at the club and all the players seem to like him, so really would he get sacked because of having black players on his team?

I hope that he would...

I would imagine, if proven guilty, the black players at Chelsea would refuse to play in the same side as him.
 


Gully

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Apr 24, 2004
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I would imagine, if proven guilty, the black players at Chelsea would refuse to play in the same side as him.

This would be the ultimate test of money versus principles for the highly paid professional players at Chelsea.

There is of course no indication that he might do the same thing again, though my mind keeps drifting to the cases where someone is defending their pitbull dog who has just chewed the face off a three year old kid..."he never behaves like that when he is at home!"
 


pasty

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This would be the ultimate test of money versus principles for the highly paid professional players at Chelsea.

Very true. Will be interesting to see the reaction of Drogba, Anelka, Ashley Cole et al if he's found guilty
 




dgh123

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Hopefully he is sacked or the black players refuse to play with him so then they end up sacking him.
 


Acker79

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If he's found guilty, I imagine the people at chelsea, who know john terry, will know if it is in keeping with how he treats the people there and will act accordingly. That is, if he doesn't normally exhibit any racist tendencies they would probably dismiss the findings under the belief that the FA/Kick It Out campaign needed a poster child to hang their agenda on. He's not really racist...

Or perhaps believing he was screwed over by Ferdinand who wanted the england captaincy back, or revenge for Terry getting the armband.


Of course, if he is normally racist and this was a crack in a previously well-maintained facade, it will give them the opportunity to refuse to play with him, but I imagine the former is more likely.
 


dgh123

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Still though no one from QPR has said that they have heard it so doesn't look like it will get that far.
 




Triggaaar

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I would imagine, if proven guilty, the black players at Chelsea would refuse to play in the same side as him.
This would be the ultimate test of money versus principles for the highly paid professional players at Chelsea.
I don't know if Terry is racist or not, but 'if' he is close friends with some of his black colleagues, they may know that he's not. If he did call Anton a black (not blind) **** then that is racist, but it is possible for someone who isn't racist to make a racist comment.
 


Triggaaar

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I imagine the people at chelsea, who know john terry, will know if it is in keeping with how he treats the people there and will act accordingly.
Exactly.
 


Gus is god

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Still though no one from QPR has said that they have heard it so doesn't look like it will get that far.

Surely if he has admitted saying them in some sort of context then no one at QPR has to have heard it?
 




beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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is anyone else note how odd it is the papers and news sites always * out the naughty words but not the word this is all over? shirly, they should write "f***ing ***** ****"? or " ******* ***** ****"?
 
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Gully

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If he did call Anton a black (not blind) **** then that is racist, but it is possible for someone who isn't racist to make a racist comment.

It is indeed possible for something to slip out that inadvertantly and unintentionally causes offence...but not often with the venom that Terry appears to have launched his tirade.
 


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I think that youtube is good for things like this, as, if Anton Ferdinand really didn't hear it then now he can press charges, because otherwise Terry wouldn't be punished for something he did.

FFs so why can't people take a bit of banter nowadays it's not as if he has a white hood or is part of the national front. It's just banter and all sports people pick up on insecurities and use it in a competitive way.

Sorry but i am all for the saying "sticks and stones will break my bones but words can never hurt me".

Some people have turned into a bunch of Poofs er i mean wimps er i mean..................
 




dgh123

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[MENTION=2719]Mouldy Boots[/MENTION] Are you saying that racism is not bad and shouldn't be punished?
 


Triggaaar

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It is indeed possible for something to slip out that inadvertantly and unintentionally causes offence...but not often with the venom that Terry appears to have launched his tirade.
Yeah maybe, but footballers do tend to be quite venomous in general, like threatening to break oppnents legs etc.
 


macky

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Dec 28, 2004
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FFs so why can't people take a bit of banter nowadays it's not as if he has a white hood or is part of the national front. It's just banter and all sports people pick up on insecurities and use it in a competitive way.

Sorry but i am all for the saying "sticks and stones will break my bones but words can never hurt me".

Some people have turned into a bunch of Poofs er i mean wimps er i mean..................

could not have said better myself rights or wrongs of it for people saying he should lose his living is'nt right
what do we call coloured people these days
 


dgh123

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[MENTION=3300]macky[/MENTION] Well for saying to someone "yeah can you hear me? You f*cking black c*nt, f*cking nob head" I'm sure some people in their job would get sacked, so why should this be any different?
 




macky

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[MENTION=3300]macky[/MENTION] Well for saying to someone "yeah can you hear me? You f*cking black c*nt, f*cking nob head" I'm sure some people in their job would get sacked, so why should this be any different?
would there have been such a uproar if he had been called a honky
 


dgh123

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[MENTION=3300]macky[/MENTION] Probably not on the basis of that Terry is 'Caucasian' and the term couldn't be used as an offense. But he didn't just go 'black' then go away did he? Its in the whole context of being angry and annoyed at someone so then proceed to refer to the persons skin colour as a way to offend the person to get back at them for annoying them and also using derogatory terms at the same time to get back at the person. So there is no reason why anyone can defend him.

So to your original question macky no there probably wouldn't be such an uproar.
 
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