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FC United - bit big for their boots?
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Guy Fawkes
The voice of treason
- Sep 29, 2007
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Greetings fella's, it's been a fair while since I last posted but in the interests of replying to a scurrelous post by the so called chairman of AFC £ylde lets put things in perspective!!! the week before this game our board members were invited to sit down at the match and enjoy a sumptious four course meal supplied by £ylde, the board refused because as they do at every game they stand on the terraces because as well as being board members they are also fans! i think this upset the £ylde hierachy and resulted in them restricting our numbers ( these numbers being the same as the last time we played there)....that is what started all this garbage off!!!!
the board then made the details of this incident general knowledge to all the FCUM members.......want to hear more
So the home team offered the normal pre match niceties which were turned down, they offered the usual quantity of free tickets which was also the quantity they offer every team in their division but were then for 5 more for the reporters / photographers and they issued them (according to the statement on thier website) yet the FCUM board had posted something on a message board saying something different had occured and this seems to have led to some of the FCUM fans forcing their way in and trying to stop some home fans from buying stuff within the ground - any chance you can post or provide a link to this statement by the FCUM board?
This to me reads that your fans see your club as something other clubs should be grateful for, because they travel in large numbers and the extra revenue that would bring to these small non-league clubs who may or may not be struggling financially and would benefit greatly from it.
Fc Flyde offered what they do to all visiting teams regardless of size and therefore treated FCUM the same as any other team visiting from your division so i don't quite get how you think they were trying to exploit your side as a cash cow? or where they say they were upset that the directors box wasn't used? they merely point out that it was available to FCUM board members / directors who chose instead to stand on the terraces and not to take advantage of what was being offered by Fc Flyde
It does seem bizarre that this has become such an issue and makes you wonder if it would have occured with any other visiting club to Fc Flyde (regardless of size, history, wealth, following, etc)
Barrel of Fun
Abort, retry, fail
Different brand, same arrogance?
Cheshire Cat
The most curious thing..
| [h=2]AFC Fylde Entrance Policy[/h] AFC Fylde have told us that they will refuse entry to some of our dressing room staff unless they pay at the turnstile for today’s fixture at their ground: AFC Fylde have sent us the following: PLAYERS/MANAGEMENT Passes need to be picked up at Match Day Control. You will be issued with 22 passes (18 for players and 4 for management) for the ground, all others have to pay. Please note all players and management must enter through the “Players and Officials Gate” and present their passes. We were advised late on Friday before today’s game that Fylde’s policy on the matter is non-negotiable. We took the matter up with the League on Friday afternoon but they were also unable to get Fylde to change their policy. The League regulations state: Away clubs must be mindful as to the number of match participants they bring to matches. It has to be accepted that these numbers can vary between clubs so a common sense approach must be taken with regards to numbers. Home clubs must not deny access to the stadium for away club personnel which can include kitmen, physios or a small number of youth team players being exposed to First Team Match Day procedures. If the home club feels their opponents are abusing the privilege they may ask the away club Match Secretary for the names of club personnel who are not on the players team sheet and the club position and if needs be make a report to the League. Though we can only name 16 players on a teamsheet Karl will usually travel with a match squad of at least 18 players to cover any late injury or illness before naming his playing squad at the game. The travelling party may also include any suspended players and those recovering from injury so that they can gain some attention from our medical team and keeping the squad together. Our first team has three coaches: Daz Lyons, Paul Chapman and Dave Brown. To support the squad we have a kitman, a physio, nutritionist and a conditioning coach. As it stands we will face paying an entry fee for a number of our dressing room staff. Fylde have said that the matter is non-negotiable. On checking with the League we are informed that this has happened to other clubs this season too and whilst the League will discuss the matter at its management board it is too late to do anything for our game. We have always found Fylde fans to be a friendly enough bunch and their staff and volunteers have always been courteous and welcoming, we fully expect the same courtesy at the match today too. Despite the restrictions relayed to us by AFC Fylde’s Club Secretary we have the reputation of our own club to think about and expect as ever that FC United fans will remain courteous to everyone that they meet at the ground today. FC United fans travel in large numbers and we spend thousands of pounds when we visit away team grounds. We have lost track of the number of clubs who have praised our fans for the way we support our team and the money we spend whilst doing so. AFC Fylde have invited FC United Board members and officials, to a pre-match meal. We have politely declined their offer. The game today is an important fixture and we know FC United fans will want to attend the match and get behind the team. Above all else we should show dignity and continue as ever to get behind our team with a song in our throats and a smile on our faces.
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Cheshire Cat
The most curious thing..
£righton £ £ove £lbion... think it looses something in the translation.
Guy Fawkes
The voice of treason
- Sep 29, 2007
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So it seems that FCUM left it too late to be able to involve the league in trying to change the numbers that FC Flyde allow in without paying which happens to be the same as for all other visiting team (possibly because FC Flyde were late in informing them but also because FCUM didn't inform them of their requirements earlier either) - It has already been brought to the leagues attention that FC Flyde were limiting numbers and the league didn't stop FC Flyde from continuing their standard matchday practice when it came to issuing free passes to players and officials. They weren't breaking league rules and they should be able to set their own policies within those rules (which they have done, even if unpopular with away sides)
Does it justify the board of FCUM making this public and FCUM fans then taking it upon themselves to boycott FC Flyde or to try to bully others into not buying stuff from FC Flyde or forcing their way in without paying? - If they wanted to boycott it, fine, boycott it. To try to stop FC Flyde fans by means of intimidation (if true) is going a bit far if you look at the so called cause of this ill feeling.
Neither side comes out of this that well but i have more sympathy for FC Flyde in this situation (and would have regardless of who the opposition were, and the fact it was FCUM has nothing to do with how my opinion was formed)
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
A££illa does too
I can accept FC not being every ones cup of tea but there's some rubbish spouted about us.
Due to playing at Bury and paying rent, not having a shirt sponsor, no pitch side sponsorship and the concessions inside the ground being owned by a third party we have a bottom 5 pay structure. Some clubs at our level pay stupid amounts of money to get promoted (one of them being Fylde) by having a local business man behind them (their club up to them). We do it by having a membership, one member one vote however much you want to put forward. We also run a scheme of pay what you want for your season ticket.
With regards to why didn't we go and support a local football team, why should we? We all had a United past and we wanted to stand next to someone else who left Old Trafford for the same reasons. Of course we now have supporters of other clubs who support our views and ethos.
Getting back to on topic, Fylde. I suppose as a football club we just expected the same courtesy we give every other club including Fylde. We let them come into the club and whoever gets off the team bus and comes through the player's door gets in for nothing nobody stands there counting heads going through the door. The people mentioned previously on this thread who travel with the club are all volunteers apart from the coaches. We also have the people we do as we try to be as professional as possible is there anything wrong with that? At our level do we not have a duty of care to the players to make sure they're healthy so they can carry on their employment during the week?
Biggest question for me is why FC manage to get posted on your forum unless the original poster is, well, a bit sad?
Due to playing at Bury and paying rent, not having a shirt sponsor, no pitch side sponsorship and the concessions inside the ground being owned by a third party we have a bottom 5 pay structure. Some clubs at our level pay stupid amounts of money to get promoted (one of them being Fylde) by having a local business man behind them (their club up to them). We do it by having a membership, one member one vote however much you want to put forward. We also run a scheme of pay what you want for your season ticket.
With regards to why didn't we go and support a local football team, why should we? We all had a United past and we wanted to stand next to someone else who left Old Trafford for the same reasons. Of course we now have supporters of other clubs who support our views and ethos.
Getting back to on topic, Fylde. I suppose as a football club we just expected the same courtesy we give every other club including Fylde. We let them come into the club and whoever gets off the team bus and comes through the player's door gets in for nothing nobody stands there counting heads going through the door. The people mentioned previously on this thread who travel with the club are all volunteers apart from the coaches. We also have the people we do as we try to be as professional as possible is there anything wrong with that? At our level do we not have a duty of care to the players to make sure they're healthy so they can carry on their employment during the week?
Biggest question for me is why FC manage to get posted on your forum unless the original poster is, well, a bit sad?
Karma compensation for the Archer years.
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Cheshire Cat
The most curious thing..
What does the nutritionist do on match days? Decide which brand of chewing gum to use, and cut up the half time orange? Make sure that the tea has the required amount of tea bags and sugar, and enforce the skimmed milk only policy.
Pretty pink fairy
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- Jan 30, 2008
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Because it's a bit more than a BHAFC forum. Not only is football as a whole regularly discussed but there are threads about cricket and Peter Hitchens and that's just the ones near the top that I've read / contributed to. You're also quite fortunate in being able to come on and defend yourself. There are a lot of other message boards where you simply wouldn't be able to, at least not in the main forum or without jumping through significant hoops.
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Been called worse to be honest.
Seems like everyone at FCUM has an official role. I'm guessing you're the fluffer?
I've had the privilege of watching FCUM play a couple of times when I couldn't get down to the Amex, and I loved every minute of it.
They are loud, they do sing a lot, they could be seen as intimidating..........but only if you are a member of the permanently outraged. Anyone else, who wants to have an experience as close as possible to the atmosphere of the 70's that so many on here reminisce about, without the dickheaded violence, should just give them a chance by watching FCUM play. In my opinion there is an element of self policing about the fans' behaviour. If someone steps over the line then the vast majority make it clear that such behaviour isn't welcome.
They bring big numbers, big income and big noise to all the non-league grounds they visit.
We're famous in Brighton for being tolerant, why not give FCUM a chance?
They are loud, they do sing a lot, they could be seen as intimidating..........but only if you are a member of the permanently outraged. Anyone else, who wants to have an experience as close as possible to the atmosphere of the 70's that so many on here reminisce about, without the dickheaded violence, should just give them a chance by watching FCUM play. In my opinion there is an element of self policing about the fans' behaviour. If someone steps over the line then the vast majority make it clear that such behaviour isn't welcome.
They bring big numbers, big income and big noise to all the non-league grounds they visit.
We're famous in Brighton for being tolerant, why not give FCUM a chance?
If they were JUST a noisy, lefty self policing antidote to modern football then I probably would. But the fact is they are where they are precisely because of the Man Utd brand. At least a tiny bit ironic no?
Not really. Would it be any difference it they had been set up by a different set of fans who were unhappy with what was happening to the stewardship and integrity of their club, such as FC Wimbledon.
FCUM are a community club, have a constitution preventing ownership by an individual, and it's a great day out. There is resentment amongst the more traditional clubs in their division because they are different, they aren't everyone's cup of tea if you want a ten minute stroll to see your local club play in front of a couple of hundred with your mates in relative peace and quiet.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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Sounds to me that most people from FCUM seem to think they are in the PR section however " You played Fylde and you F***** it up !...."
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There's not really any need , he (easily) makes you look a bit of a mug, and everyone can see it.
