[Food] Farming and government policy.

[Leekbrookgull]

Surely from the carbon footprint point of view it makes sense for any country let alone any government to have a long term workable home grown food and fisheries policy? After all i believe from previous posts here on NSC that a fair number of members are gardener's and growers?

 

[Rodney Thomas]

Edit: I've had a rethink and... meh.

 

[happypig]

"Let them eat turnips"

 

[LamieRobertson]

Surely from the carbon footprint point of view it makes sense for any country let alone any government to have a long term workable home grown food and fisheries policy? After all i believe from previous posts here on NSC that a fair number of members are gardener's and growers?

About ten?

 

[GT49er]

Yes, all in favour of keeping hedgerows and field edges for wildlife, but maybe it's time to set aside Set Aside (possibly we already have now we're no longer in the EU, who funded it).

 

[cloud]

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[cloud]

It makes perfect sense to grow our own. But the only way for the Government to make $$$ from it will be to have GM, branded, processed foods.

 

[Bry Nylon]

Impossible to have a coherent and sustainable agriculture strategy without reigning in the supermarkets and redressing the balance a little more in the favour of the producers. All the while the big retailers are dictating bare minimum wholesale prices so they can use staples like milk, bread, meat and vegetables as loss-leaders to drive footfall in their stores, the farmers have no chance in the long run.

If we want a sustainable and thriving agricultural sector, consumers will have to accept higher prices and shareholders lower returns. And the chances of either of those two things happening are probably zero.

 

[GT49er]

Impossible to have a coherent and sustainable agriculture strategy without reigning in the supermarkets and redressing the balance a little more in the favour of the producers. All the while the big retailers are dictating bare minimum wholesale prices so they can use staples like milk, bread, meat and vegetables as loss-leaders to drive footfall in their stores, the farmers have no chance in the long run.

If we want a sustainable and thriving agricultural sector, consumers will have to accept higher prices and shareholders lower returns. And the chances of either of those two things happening are probably zero.

Trouble is, higher prices for consumers is a huge consideration at the moment. And no, I don't know what the answer is either.

 

[BadFish]

Trouble is, higher prices for consumers is a huge consideration at the moment. And no, I don't know what the answer is either.

Higher wages?

There is plenty of money about, its just it all trickles up to a few bods rather than down into the pockets of many.

A more even distribution of wealth means that people can afford the extra needed to solve the problem.

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[GT49er]

Higher wages?

There is plenty of money about, its just it all trickles up to a few bods rather than down into the pockets of many.

A more even distribution of wealth means that people can afford the extra needed to solve the problem.

Nice idea - except that some smaller firms will go to the wall, and larger ones will make redundancies. Yes, higher wages will benefit some people. 'Some' being the operative word.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Nice idea - except that some smaller firms will go to the wall, and larger ones will make redundancies. Yes, higher wages will benefit some people. 'Some' being the operative word.

Aye ….then of course higher wages…potentially leading to higher prices…..leading to…..

 

[GT49er]

Aye ….then of course higher wages…potentially leading to higher prices…..leading to…..

..... if you're at the bottom of the pyramid - or even in the middle ranges - it's called inflation. If you're at the top end (or if you are the Government) it's called economic growth.

 

[portlock seagull]

If not already:
Get growing (food)
Get collecting (fuel)
Get reading (self education)
Get building (housing)
Get on your bike (transport)

There’s almost nothing this government will actually do for you these days. I mean, I know the tories are all about self-help but its stretching the meaning of now. They’re supposed to provide some things aren’t they?!

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Higher wages?

There is plenty of money about, its just it all trickles up to a few bods rather than down into the pockets of many.

A more even distribution of wealth means that people can afford the extra needed to solve the problem.

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I have heard of this different approach but it was dismissed long ago as unworkable, apparently. Something to do with lack of prophet motive or something.

Spokally....sockball....stokalism.....socialism?

Anyway, who cares. The multinationals, Johnson, and his pals will sort it out. Nothing to see here. Just a prices blip.

 

[GT49er]

If not already:
Get growing (food)
Get collecting (fuel)
Get reading (self education)
Get building (housing)
Get on your bike (transport)

Get an electric car, you planet polluting piece of under-earning povery-pleading shite (environment)

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Surely from the carbon footprint point of view it makes sense for any country let alone any government to have a long term workable home grown food and fisheries policy? After all i believe from previous posts here on NSC that a fair number of members are gardener's and growers?

Well yes, but this should have all been started 5 years ago.

We needed to poly tunnel over swathes of the countryside to deliver a nationwide food self sufficiency and security.

Admirable aim, but will never happen.

 

[Baldseagull]

Aye ….then of course higher wages…potentially leading to higher prices…..leading to…..

Pretty sure I heard Johnson talking about a high wage economy for Britain a fair bit over the last few months.

 

[Baldseagull]

Well yes, but this should have all been started 5 years ago.

We needed to poly tunnel over swathes of the countryside to deliver a nationwide food self sufficiency and security.

Admirable aim, but will never happen.

Would be good if we had people to pick the stuff already being grown.

 

[cloud]

Get an electric car, you planet polluting piece of under-earning povery-pleading shite (environment)

Not only is this likely to cripple the electric grid. But by making everyone replace their car, that's a huge amount of scarce resource consumption.
It would be better to allow people to convert their existing cars. But there's no money for the shareholders in doing that.