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brakespear

Doctor Worm
Feb 24, 2009
12,326
Sleeping on the roof
Rare for me to agree with Simster, but "this".

Farage is an opportunity politician who as Cameron has moved the tories into the centre has exploited the gap they've left behind. He's blusters and grandstands as he knows it will popular enough to get him a few million votes and a few nice MEP seats withouth any danger that he'll ever have any power or real influence.

that.
 


Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,594
Haywards Heath
Rare for me to agree with Simster, but "this".

Farage is an opportunity politician who as Cameron has moved the tories into the centre has exploited the gap they've left behind. He's blusters and grandstands as he knows it will popular enough to get him a few million votes and a few nice MEP seats withouth any danger that he'll ever have any power or real influence.

That's a fair enough comment BUT.........

I think it's a good thing to have someone like him to sit on the euro parliament and expose all those wasters sitting on the euro gravy train. Anything that pisses them off is fine by me, although I'm sure they don't really care as they're living it up on expenses in Brussels while the rest of southern europe goes bust
 


Hatterlovesbrighton

something clever
Jul 28, 2003
4,543
Not Luton! Thank God
That's a fair enough comment BUT.........

I think it's a good thing to have someone like him to sit on the euro parliament and expose all those wasters sitting on the euro gravy train. Anything that pisses them off is fine by me, although I'm sure they don't really care as they're living it up on expenses in Brussels while the rest of southern europe goes bust

I suppose, buts it always struck me as a huge irony that he's taking a MEPs wage whilst at the same time opposing the cost and bureaucracy of the EU. Does he donate it?
 




Mellor 3 Ward 4

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2004
10,275
saaf of the water
I must admit to enjoying watching his little rants, and when speaking about Europe he indeed makes some good points. The Euro, with it's one interest rate fits all policy, was doomed from the beginning.

BUT, he has two major problems

(1) He IS UKIP - the rest of his party are invisible fools.

(2) His is a one policy party - talk about anything else, and they are clueless.
 


D

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That's a fair enough comment BUT.........

I think it's a good thing to have someone like him to sit on the euro parliament and expose all those wasters sitting on the euro gravy train. Anything that pisses them off is fine by me, although I'm sure they don't really care as they're living it up on expenses in Brussels while the rest of southern europe goes bust

Correct. Have you heard about the f*** Hotel?
Garry Bushell - Online
 


The Euro is fundamentally flawed and until these underlying issues are addressed the patch and mend approach is doomed to failure, at huge cost to the tax payer. Does anyone really think that €100bn is enough to shore up the Spanish banks? And the source of the funding only exerts pressure on other areas of the banking system, most dangerously Italy in this instance. We are accelerating into the end game right now, the current system is simply not sustainable.
 




The Euro is f***ed. It was the worst single idea in the history of mankind

I'm sorry I did try to overlook this post but in the end I just couldn't do it. "The worst single idea in the history of mankind"? Really? Worse than Nazism, or genocide, or suicide bombings, or apartheid, or child porn rings or Steven Spielberg's Hook? Surely not.
 


TheJasperCo

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2012
4,612
Exeter
I must admit to enjoying watching his little rants, and when speaking about Europe he indeed makes some good points. The Euro, with it's one interest rate fits all policy, was doomed from the beginning.

BUT, he has two major problems

(1) He IS UKIP - the rest of his party are invisible fools.

(2) His is a one policy party - talk about anything else, and they are clueless.

"Invisible fools" is an interesting use of words when they're still only starting to grow in popularity. Surely if they had done something foolish, they wouldn't be invisible? Besides, there aren't any UKIP MPs in parliament, the idea being that this will change once they start drawing support come the next election.

And, if you read their manifesto, it is full of sensible policies on a range of other matters, so they're far from a one-trick pony - it's just the Euro is their main party piece.

Farage is one of a very rare breed of politician, who has actually held a job before entering politics. He understands where many normal members of public are coming from, unlike the politicians that make up the 3 main parties currently.
 


D

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"Invisible fools" is an interesting use of words when they're still only starting to grow in popularity. Surely if they had done something foolish, they wouldn't be invisible? Besides, there aren't any UKIP MPs in parliament, the idea being that this will change once they start drawing support come the next election.

And, if you read their manifesto, it is full of sensible policies on a range of other matters, so they're far from a one-trick pony - it's just the Euro is their main party piece.

Farage is one of a very rare breed of politician, who has actually held a job before entering politics. He understands where many normal members of public are coming from, unlike the politicians that make up the 3 main parties currently.

Agree. The manifesto covers everything and ticks a lot of my boxes. It's just a shame people write them off before giving them a chance. For a party that hardly gets any airtime, I think they are doing well.

This country is calling out for something different. Its nice to have a party who is sticking up for the interests of this country, telling the truth instead of burying their heads in the sand.

I see Ed Milliband is now jumping on the band wagon as regards the EU. What he says now, and what he says later I can gaurantee will be different. And this is why politics is so frustrating.
Ed Miliband knows a referendum on the EU makes sense | Sunny Hundal | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
 
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dingodan

New member
Feb 16, 2011
10,080
I'm sorry I did try to overlook this post but in the end I just couldn't do it. "The worst single idea in the history of mankind"? Really? Worse than Nazism?

Nazism and the EU are the same idea.

Sorry.
 




Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,530
The arse end of Hangleton
Nazism and the EU are the same idea.

Sorry.

I'm far from a supporter of the EU ( exactly the opposite in fact ) but as yet I've not seen the EU suggest we round up the Jews and gas them. Quite frankly your comment is naive and disgusting.
 
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dingodan

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Feb 16, 2011
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I'm far from a supporter of the EU ( exactly the opposite in fact ) but as yet I've not seen the EU suggest we round up the Jews and gas them. Quite frankly your comment is naive and disgusting.

Except that you are saying "Nazism is the genocide". Which it is not. The aim of Nazism was to unite Europe and the World under a socialist system. If Hilter won the war, he would have created the EU.

So it should come as no surprise that the EU is the brainchild of a 1955 meeting of the Bilderberg Group, which was founded by Nazi party member and IG Farben employee, Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands.

Dutch Prince Bernhard 'was member of Nazi party' - Telegraph

Makes you wonder who really won the war.
 


brunswick

New member
Aug 13, 2004
2,920
funny, but alas, controlled opposition.....a basket to catch all those who are "grrrr, we hate you EU, grrr, you take our money, we want to leave."

just like ron paul in the states really - will never get in, but keeps a massive amount of people happy.

it is called psy-ops.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,530
The arse end of Hangleton
Except that you are saying "Nazism is the genocide". Which it is not. The aim of Nazism was to unite Europe and the World under a socialist system. If Hilter won the war, he would have created the EU.

So it should come as no surprise that the EU is the brainchild of a 1955 meeting of the Bilderberg Group, which was founded by Nazi party member and IG Farben employee, Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands.

Dutch Prince Bernhard 'was member of Nazi party' - Telegraph

Makes you wonder who really won the war.

Not quite - the EU is a Union of countries with mostly democratically elected governments ( the governments in Greece and Italy were installed by the EU ). Hitler wanted a Greater Germany - i.e. the whole of Europe would be Germany rather than a collection of democratic countries.
 


Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,098
Lancing
I'm sorry I did try to overlook this post but in the end I just couldn't do it. "The worst single idea in the history of mankind"? Really? Worse than Nazism, or genocide, or suicide bombings, or apartheid, or child porn rings or Steven Spielberg's Hook? Surely not.

You are a clever little Man. I cannot compete with you. You win, you rule and you are a better and bigger man than me. I bow at your feet. :clap2:
 




dingodan

New member
Feb 16, 2011
10,080
Not quite - the EU is a Union of countries with mostly democratically elected governments ( the governments in Greece and Italy were installed by the EU ). Hitler wanted a Greater Germany - i.e. the whole of Europe would be Germany rather than a collection of democratic countries.

Lol, the whole of Europe is moving towards being "Europe" rather than a collection of democratic countries. That is the whole idea silly.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,530
The arse end of Hangleton
Lol, the whole of Europe is moving towards being "Europe" rather than a collection of democratic countries. That is the whole idea silly.

Oh I agree with you there - the difference is that millions aren't dying to achieve that aim and tanks aren't thundering across the European countryside.
 


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