Farage rant

[dingodan]

Oh I agree with you there - the difference is that millions aren't dying to achieve that aim and tanks aren't thundering across the European countryside.

Right, but the question is, do you only disagree with Hitlers methods? Because what is happening now is the pursuit of his ideals, but this time using subversion rather than force. Doing things in a slow drip drip way, using economics and geopolitics, rather than overtly using violence. But the end result, even with the softly softly approach, is tyranny.

To put it another way, Hitler blasted on the heat, and the frog jumped out. The new guard are raising the temperature slowly so the frog does not notice.

But both of them want the frog cooked at the end of the day though.

 

[brunswick]

well put dingodan, people need to see actual violence nowadays to "see" oppression, but when it is subtle and covert, the masses don't see it.

this amazingly shown in the middle parts of michael tsarions architects of control presentation......a presentation that i fear would make westdene seagulls little head spin so much it might fall off or explode into a mushy pulp.

 

[Lokki 7]

You are a clever little Man. I cannot compete with you. You win, you rule and you are a better and bigger man than me. I bow at your feet.

Calm down old chap, it's not a competition you know. If you are going to label something as "The worst single idea in the history of mankind" on a public discussion forum then it's hardly controversial to ask you to qualify the remark. No?

 

[Don Quixote]

Except that you are saying "Nazism is the genocide". Which it is not. The aim of Nazism was to unite Europe and the World under a socialist system. If Hilter won the war, he would have created the EU.

So it should come as no surprise that the EU is the brainchild of a 1955 meeting of the Bilderberg Group, which was founded by Nazi party member and IG Farben employee, Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands.

Dutch Prince Bernhard 'was member of Nazi party' - Telegraph

Makes you wonder who really won the war.

You know that for a fact do you? How do you know what would have happened 'if Hitler won the war'? That happened seventy years ago and has no real place in the modern EU.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Calm down old chap, it's not a competition you know. If you are going to label something as "The worst single idea in the history of mankind" on a public discussion forum then it's hardly controversial to ask you to qualify the remark. No?

It was a throw away comment so to make me out to be so insensitive to the other issues you raise to make me look like a heartless bastard on a public forum simply to deride me is going to get a response. I should ignore it really but you just love to push all the right buttons and fair play to you for that, as you do. If that is what rocks your world, well done. The constant oneupmanship and point scoring is rather tiresome so if anyone is in any doubt I will concede here and now on nsc

You are a more intelligent man than me
You are a better looking man than me
You are a wealthier man than me
You have a better and more successful career than me
You bed better looking women than I could ever dream of

You have won. Have a pint and rejoice.

I will get on with my meaningless and pitiful existance.

Good day.

 

[Lokki 7]

It was a throw away comment so to make me out to be so insensitive to the other issues you raise to make me look like a heartless bastard on a public forum simply to deride me is going to get a response. I should ignore it really but you just love to push all the right buttons and fair play to you for that, as you do. If that is what rocks your world well done. The constant oneupmanship and point scoring is rather tiresome so if anyone is in any doubt I will concede here and now on nsc

You are a more intelligent man than me
You are a better looking man than me
You are a wealthier man than me
You have a better and more successful career than me
You bed better looking women than I could ever dream of

You have won. Have a pint and rejoice.

I will get on with my meaningless and pitiful existance.

Good day.

Oh ok then no problem. For a minute there I thought you might massively and unnecessarily over react or something but I think you've pretty much allayed those fears.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Oh ok then no problem. For a minute there I thought you might massively and unnecessarily over react or something but I think you've pretty much allayed those fears.

You got EXACTLY what you wanted.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

well put dingodan, people need to see actual violence nowadays to "see" oppression, but when it is subtle and covert, the masses don't see it.

this amazingly shown in the middle parts of michael tsarions architects of control presentation......a presentation that i fear would make westdene seagulls little head spin so much it might fall off or explode into a mushy pulp.

I don't support the EU nor do I support the principle of an EU. I want the UK out of the EU ASAP. The difference is that I pay my tax and dues so I should get a say in it unlike you my little tax dodging friend.

 

[beorhthelm]

Right, but the question is, do you only disagree with Hitlers methods? Because what is happening now is the pursuit of his ideals, .

you really are quite daft arent you, there was no intention to rule europe, only unite the german people. the occupation of Benelux and France came out of their support for the sovereignty of other nations, notably Poland. but dont let real history get in the way of your bonkers ideas.

 

[dingodan]

you really are quite daft arent you, there was no intention to rule europe, only unite the german people. the occupation of Benelux and France came out of their support for the sovereignty of other nations, notably Poland. but dont let real history get in the way of your bonkers ideas.

You are kind of right. Hitler did not want war with us, nor did he want to spread West at all. But only because he saw us as potential allies. And we were, he was a guest of the British Royal family and of the Tavistock Institute. He was also Time magazine's man of the year on two separate occasions. I never said he wanted to rule Europe. I said he wanted to see a United Europe. He did want to spread national socialism, although he may have felt that he did not need to do this to the West because we were already reading from the same page ideologically. This is what I am saying, we declared war on his methods, but not on his aims.

 

[Biscuit]

Think he's brilliant. Says it how it is and no bullshit. Liked the one where he put Blair in his place

All that video shows was how GOOD Blair was at putting twats like Farage in his place.

 

[ofco8]

If UKIP put a candidate up in Pavilion next time, will definitely vote for them.

Have given up on main three parties, utter ***** the lot of them.

 

[dingodan]

All that video shows was how GOOD Blair was at putting twats like Farage in his place.

 

[Gary Gurr]

That is the most truth I've ever heard from any politician.

Except he is a politician so basically all that comes out of his mouth is crap, oh and for added bonus it's NIGEL Farage!

 

[dingodan]

That is the most truth I've ever heard from any politician.

From 2002:

 

[cunning fergus]

You know that for a fact do you? How do you know what would have happened 'if Hitler won the war'? That happened seventy years ago and has no real place in the modern EU.

Its difficult say exactly what would have happened, BUT it would be easy to say in general terms. In short we would have lost the ability to independently determine the future of the country.

The UK may have still had elections but these would definitely be a sham. The politicians would be quislings who would support the policies of the greater Reich.

They would promise changes and referendums in their manifestos..............but nothing would happen when they got into power.

The UK people wouldnt have a say in who could come in or out of the country as our ability to manage our borders would be subject to the greater Reich.

In order to supress and dilute the identity of the British the Reich would probably encourage a open border policy with non Aryans so that generation by generation the country would be populated by a polyglot of differnet peoples with different cultural allegiences making it difficult for the country to rally behind an identity. Supporters of the quislings would say that it had always been that way.................for hundreds and hundreds of years.

We would definitely have a smoking ban, and those pursuing traditional pursuits like fox hunting would be criminalised. Aspects of our national character would be eroded to and so people using (say) imperial measures would also be criminalised.

We would even be micro managed with the state looking at our telephone records, email comms to see who we speak to etc.

They would even tell us what light bulbs we could use.

Just a thought.........

 

[peterward]

this is brilliant imho, intelligent, reasoned and perfectly hits the mark about the outdated German post war responsibilities and the wider failed EU strategy.

 

[User removed 4]

All that video shows was how GOOD Blair was at putting twats like Farage in his place.

Er. where ? All he did was spout the usual bollocks about unity and partners that Farage had exposed for the dross it really is.

 

[Seagull on the wing]

All that video shows was how GOOD Blair was at putting twats like Farage in his place.

Sorry mate,you're entitled to your view but do you REALLY think that if there was a referendrun tomorrow that the British people would vote to intergrate with Europe fully...Blair is a liar on many things including the 'sexed up' dossier on Iraq and on Dr Kelly...then to rub salt in the wounds he is made 'PEACE ENVOY' for the Middle East. My view and few other people think Nigel Farage talks a lot of sense and he certainly will get a lot more votes at the next General Election.

 

[dingodan]

Its difficult say exactly what would have happened, BUT it would be easy to say in general terms. In short we would have lost the ability to independently determine the future of the country.

The UK may have still had elections but these would definitely be a sham. The politicians would be quislings who would support the policies of the greater Reich.

They would promise changes and referendums in their manifestos..............but nothing would happen when they got into power.

The UK people wouldnt have a say in who could come in or out of the country as our ability to manage our borders would be subject to the greater Reich.

In order to supress and dilute the identity of the British the Reich would probably encourage a open border policy with non Aryans so that generation by generation the country would be populated by a polyglot of differnet peoples with different cultural allegiences making it difficult for the country to rally behind an identity. Supporters of the quislings would say that it had always been that way.................for hundreds and hundreds of years.

We would definitely have a smoking ban, and those pursuing traditional pursuits like fox hunting would be criminalised. Aspects of our national character would be eroded to and so people using (say) imperial measures would also be criminalised.

We would even be micro managed with the state looking at our telephone records, email comms to see who we speak to etc.

They would even tell us what light bulbs we could use.

Just a thought.........

Precisely.

Well put.