Jim Van Winkle
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Top draw ranting, finally some truth being spoken. Too little too late me thinks though for Europe.
Blair spoke without saying anything and answered none of Farage's points.
I became a UKIP voter a few years ago....Nigel is the only one who sees the Euro for what it is....you cannot fit all the countries into one suit....sort them out Nigel
UKIP have done really well so far considering they don't hardly get any air time on the BBC. It's always been that way.
Ten years ago or so I was a party member and it was a very amateurish affair. They gradually lost their way for a while but I'm glad to see they're now coming back strongly. Definitely an option for me at the next general election.
Sorry, I still think he's a total nob who does happen to be correct on this one aspect. Ultimately, someone needs to actually PAY to bail out the fragile South European banks, which means handing money over through taxes and this should be done in exchange for Europe-wide reform in the banking sector to ensure lending is more responsible in future.
As for Farage, it's very easy to go spouting about how we should pull out of Europe and how they do nothing for us because millionaires like him can always pull up the drawbridge when economic conditions take a turn for the worse, as they would do if we pulled out of the EC.
And to bring some football into the thread - how ironic that the next three countries most likely to do a Greece are in the same Euro group
Poland, Czech Republic and Russia? How do you work that one out?
Italy, Spain, R. of Ireland
Ah- I read it as in the same Euro group as Greece. A little hungover today.
Rare for me to agree with Simster, but "this".
Farage is an opportunity politician who as Cameron has moved the tories into the centre has exploited the gap they've left behind. He's blusters and grandstands as he knows it will popular enough to get him a few million votes and a few nice MEP seats withouth any danger that he'll ever have any power or real influence.
what he said in that last youtube clip is exactly true, the rise of the BNP in england, the spectaculer rise of Le Penn is France, the Greek ultra nationalists scoring over 10%, is disilluisionment with mainstream parties who do not represent the wishes of their electorate. and a failed anti democratic EU, designed by politicians without any concensus of the masses.
The people are being squeezed, jobs losses and poverty and are countries in the eurozone are hamstrung by the European central bank with dictats imposed on them that they should galdly accept, to keep this failed anti democratic eurodream alive.
If the mainstream parties listened or let the people decide (they never will), it will end very quickly. Because they totally disregard the masses, the unfortunate rise of extreme parties will continue.
Rare for me to agree with Simster, but "this".
Farage is an opportunity politician who as Cameron has moved the tories into the centre has exploited the gap they've left behind. He's blusters and grandstands as he knows it will popular enough to get him a few million votes and a few nice MEP seats withouth any danger that he'll ever have any power or real influence.
And to bring some football into the thread - how ironic that the next three countries most likely to do a Greece are in the same Euro group
Think he's brilliant. Says it how it is and no bullshit. Liked the one where he put Blair in his place