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[Albion] Facundo Buonanotte **On Loan To Leicester 10/08/24**
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Mackenzie
Old Brightonian
A loan might be ok if he’s not going to get any playing time here, but not a loan to buy.
- Jul 6, 2011
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Sadly, the majority of professional footballers feign injury from time to time. So is it that these players getting above average foul statistics are getting fouled more frequently or are they just better actors? If the later, should we be adding a thespian coach to the management team?
I’d be disappointed and worried if Facu B was to go, he’s still very young and shown great promise at times. Ideally he would’ve gone out on loan before playing so much in the first team, but we had a lot of injuries last season so it is what it is. He’s not even 20 yet, both sides should have patience.
I'd like to see him loaned but to somewhere where he can toughen up a bit (like the Championship). He's undoubtedly talented but still a bit physically weak, a year of being knocked about in the Championship and getting through that could work wonders for him.
I can't remember Veltman actually being fouled!
What an obtuse comment. They don't love cheating, they're very good wingers who often use their skills to win free kicks. It's a fundamental part of elite level football and a fundamental part of being a successful team at the top level. It creates pressure on defences, it makes teams stand off rather than commit to tackles, and more importantly creates (or at least should now that a certain set-piece coordinator has gone to Norwich) goal scoring opportunities.
If Hurzeler is able to get as much out of set pieces as he did at St. Pauli, players like Facundo will be key to getting those opportunities.
Veltman is an absolute expert at buying a free kick. Positions himself between ball and man and goes down like a sack of spuds. Works every time.
Edit: just noticed you underlined actually so maybe we're saying the same thing.
I can't either, as @Bakero says, I can imagine the action but can't pinpoint any instance. Had a look into the data anyway and in the 42 times he was fouled last season (in just 17.6 90mins) 27 of the times come in just six matches.
6 times against Forest (h), 5 times against Liverpool (h), and 4 times against Bournemouth (h), Villa (a), Everton (a), Liverpool (a).
Facu failed to draw a foul in just 6 of his 27 appearances in the PL last year. He only started in one of them; Newcastle (a).
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British Bulldog
The great escape
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If they want him they want him, doesn't mean they get him.
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I disagree, he got some game time and useful experience. Sure, he could have played more minutes over the season, but the loans were not a complete waste.
We are going to have more threads like this I suspect. We have an absolute glut of talented midfielders now, so some will have to go on loan or be sold or they simply won't get playing time.
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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I think Facu will be a terrific player.
But he needs games to achieve this. And he'll probably not be a really top player for another 4 years or so. Are we the best club to make this investment in him? Maybe 2 or 3 years ago we were. Not so sure now. All the signs are the manager prizes physicality
Loan, decent sell on option for Feyenoord, thumping sell on clause. We nurture a good trading relationship with Feyenoord, we will very likely get a chunk of cash in 3 years when he moves to where he will likely end up. A mid to high team in Spain
But he needs games to achieve this. And he'll probably not be a really top player for another 4 years or so. Are we the best club to make this investment in him? Maybe 2 or 3 years ago we were. Not so sure now. All the signs are the manager prizes physicality
Loan, decent sell on option for Feyenoord, thumping sell on clause. We nurture a good trading relationship with Feyenoord, we will very likely get a chunk of cash in 3 years when he moves to where he will likely end up. A mid to high team in Spain
In all honesty, I suspect that the "realistic buy-out option" from our perspective is "there isn't one". Why on earth would we sell a 19-year-old Argentina full international right at the start of his career after he played 36 games for us last season?
Milano
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The EPL is getting faster and stronger year on year. IMO Facu hasn't got the physical attributes to be a success in the EPL....YET. He won't build those attributes sitting on the bench here. I'd loan him this season because IMO he won't play enough otherwise.
FWIW I'm not sure that the EPL is the right league for him but probably too early to say that definitively.
FWIW I'm not sure that the EPL is the right league for him but probably too early to say that definitively.
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
Last season showed us what happens when you dont have strength in depth. Gone are the days of relying on maybe 18 players to get you through the season. Now you need 25 and very few of them will play all the games. We need an embarrassment of riches in all positions because the way the game is played we will go deep into the squad.
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Withdean South Stand
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- Mar 2, 2014
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I think loaning out Facu Goodnight would be reasonable for a season, but probably better to loan him to La Liga. We definitely shouldn't be looking to sell him.
Are we basing this on one friendly or what?