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Fabric to close due to drug issues



Notters

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2003
24,889
Guiseley
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2...abric-close-permanently-licence-revoked-drugs

Presumably this means every night club in the country will be closed?

I only went there once and didn't enjoy it a lot (after queuing for five hours in sub-zero temperatures), and much preferred the friendlier atmosphere in Brighton's clubs. However Fabric has been very important culturally, in the development of new artists, and I think it will be a great loss.
 




happypig

Staring at the rude boys
May 23, 2009
8,165
Eastbourne
Never heard of it but if closing it means that all young people everywhere will stop taking drugs then more power to their elbow.
Except it won't stop them, not a single one.
Nor will it stop drug dealers or drug deaths.
It's about time we, as a society, had a frank and open-minded discussion about drugs policies and how we deal with users/addicts/dealers etc.
The "war on drugs" has been going, what, 50 years ? and yet there's more drugs, easier availability and more "victims". Current policy simply isn't working on any level.
 


CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,090
This wasn't about drugs, good excuse though.

This is telling, from August...

as recently as December last year, we were described by District Judge Allison in a court judgement as a "beacon of best practice" in managing this issue.
 


Notters

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2003
24,889
Guiseley
Never heard of it but if closing it means that all young people everywhere will stop taking drugs then more power to their elbow.
Except it won't stop them, not a single one.
Nor will it stop drug dealers or drug deaths.

It's about time we, as a society, had a frank and open-minded discussion about drugs policies and how we deal with users/addicts/dealers etc.
The "war on drugs" has been going, what, 50 years ? and yet there's more drugs, easier availability and more "victims". Current policy simply isn't working on any level.
Quite.
 


KingstonSeagull

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May 1, 2013
2,185
Shoreditch
I have been to Fabric and the place was a joke. People openly selling drugs, people mashed off their face, people vomiting just on the dance floor, people shagging in the corners...
 




Geestar

New member
Nov 6, 2012
3,421
Shoreham Beach
Banging club but far from the first decent London club to close recently.

Sunday nights there were perfect.

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Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
24,779
GOSBTS
I have been to Fabric and the place was a joke. People openly selling drugs, people mashed off their face, people vomiting just on the dance floor, people shagging in the corners...

I've been to Fabric 10+ times and never seen anyone 'vomiting on the dancefloor' (did see this in plenty of pubs though.) Yes people take drugs, same as they do any club in London or all over the world. But shutting these venues is not the solution is it? The police can't stop drugs going into prisons, so why should a nightclub be expected to stop it? Fabric handed over 80 suspected dealers to the Met Police, and only 1 was actually prosecuted. Who's fault is that? I've actually been pretty critical about Fabric in the past as in my opinion their searches are TOO intrusive. Dealers putting their hands down your trousers, cupping your balls etc.This was also evident during the hearing when the owners took reports off TripAdvisor with similar.

1 of the people that died recently, did so because he took 3 pills he had himself, and 1 he bought inside because 'they weren't working' - that is not the clubs fault, that is poor drugs education and lack of available testing, like we have in other clubs in Europe, including Warehouse Project in Manchester.

This is about one thing only; real estate. More gentrification of London and selling off prime locations to Russian/Middle Eastern property developers to turn into £1m+ flats.

Maybe they'll be happy when everywhere is a Slug & Lettuce, shuts at 11pm and everyone is tucked up in bed.
 


KingstonSeagull

New member
May 1, 2013
2,185
Shoreditch
I've been to Fabric 10+ times and never seen anyone 'vomiting on the dancefloor' (did see this in plenty of pubs though.) Yes people take drugs, same as they do any club in London or all over the world. But shutting these venues is not the solution is it? The police can't stop drugs going into prisons, so why should a nightclub be expected to stop it? Fabric handed over 80 suspected dealers to the Met Police, and only 1 was actually prosecuted. Who's fault is that? I've actually been pretty critical about Fabric in the past as in my opinion their searches are TOO intrusive. Dealers putting their hands down your trousers, cupping your balls etc.This was also evident during the hearing when the owners took reports off TripAdvisor with similar.

1 of the people that died recently, did so because he took 3 pills he had himself, and 1 he bought inside because 'they weren't working' - that is not the clubs fault, that is poor drugs education and lack of available testing, like we have in other clubs in Europe, including Warehouse Project in Manchester.

This is about one thing only; real estate. More gentrification of London and selling off prime locations to Russian/Middle Eastern property developers to turn into £1m+ flats.

Maybe they'll be happy when everywhere is a Slug & Lettuce, shuts at 11pm and everyone is tucked up in bed.

Sounds perfick! :sick:
 




Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,594
Haywards Heath
I have been to Fabric and the place was a joke. People openly selling drugs, people mashed off their face, people vomiting just on the dance floor, people shagging in the corners...

I've been many times and never seen any of that.

A sad day for club culture, but probably inevitable Islington council have been after Fabric for a while now, the drugs is just an excuse.

I was due to go again at the end of the month, I've always loved room 2 and never seen anything other than a friendly atmosphere.
 


Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,496
Worthing
I have been to Fabric and the place was a joke. People openly selling drugs, people mashed off their face, people vomiting just on the dance floor, people shagging in the corners...

(Shagging in the corners ? ) Well if they were openly selling coke and MDMA then they just HAD to be selling Viagra.
 


Notters

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2003
24,889
Guiseley
I have been to Fabric and the place was a joke. People openly selling drugs, people mashed off their face, people vomiting just on the dance floor, people shagging in the corners...

I've seen most of these things in most of the current and former dance clubs in Brighton. :shrug:

I've been many times and never seen any of that.

You never saw anyone smashed off their face at Fabric? :lol:
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,014
whats the supposed agenda then, sell off the building for development? the market is listed i thought, so limits the area for redevelopment.
 


Springal

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CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
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James Kendall of the now defunct Brighton Source

Six months ago I spent the weekend with Fabric's general manager – a lovely, quiet, serious guy. I asked him how Fabric was going and he said it's a constant struggle as the head of the council had made it his personal mission to shut down Fabric, not mentioning them by name but describing them by capacity so it could only be them. Fabric had a big hand in regenerating Farringdon but now the councillor wanted the space for flats and offices. So when this went to review it was obvious how it was going to go.

A friend of mine is an architect. He's working on redeveloping a former Brighton club into an admittedly interesting work/coffee/makers space. The company he's doing it for buy up the leases on clubs because they know that as soon as the hit problems they can boot them out and knock down the club and build pretty much anything. There's not a council out there that wants a night club more than flats/offices/shops/anything. The council rubber-stamp literally anything, and this company know it - that's their business model. They've got at least two projects in Brighton, the other being a hotel.

These clubs are never coming back. Fabric is never coming back. It will be knocked down by the end of the year, I'd suggest. When clubs, venues and pubs go, they are gone for good, like The Freebutt, and city life gets a little bit less interesting. I think the closing of Fabric sets a dangerous precedent - we'll see more clubs losing their licences from this point on. Support them with your attendance and if you're taking drugs, by being safe.

RIP Fabric
 






Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
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James Kendall of the now defunct Brighton Source

That is the sad thing about it. We'll see illegal raves grow again, where EVERYTHING is unregulated with little formal security. This will only send everything underground again.

We'll also lose a lot of our creative communities to Berlin, Amsterdam, Lisbon, Barcelona and be left with a load of suits and Pret A Manger on every corner.

Sad times, but glad I got to experience it over the last 12 years.

Also great to see the local council removed 250 jobs from a local business
 








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