F**k it, he's gone. How does club repair the damage?

[Tricky Dicky]

Just get a new manager in sharpish, as someone else said, today's news will be tomorrows chip wrapper in double quick time.....at the end of the day managers are flying in and out of clubs at a rapid rate right through the year, this will be old new once the new man has been in situ for a week.

Indeed. Some peoples perspective of our own importance is quite amazing. I doubt most other football fans could say what division we are in, let alone who our manager is.

 

[BLOCK F]

It must be great being that detached from reality. We are a laughing stock, and you would have to be a deluded fool not to see that.

Not wishing to appear too rude,but it is you who is deluded.Most players,fans and chairmen of other clubs won't give a monkey's toss about what is happening here.We are not that important.
Yes,it may be of passing interest and it gives the press something to feed on for a short while before they return to their ghastly predictable stories of overpaid and over rated Premiership players.
The world will still revolve and life will go on,as will the Albion.We will get a new manager and we will have our usual ups and downs and when the time comes there will be no shortage of quality candidates prepared to take up the challenge of managing this 'laughing stock'.

 

[stss30]

Not wishing to appear too rude,but it is you who is deluded.Most players,fans and chairmen of other clubs won't give a monkey's toss about what is happening here.We are not that important.
Yes,it may be of passing interest and it gives the press something to feed on for a short while before they return to their ghastly predictable stories of overpaid and over rated Premiership players.
The world will still revolve and life will go on,as will the Albion.We will get a new manager and we will have our usual ups and downs and when the time comes there will be no shortage of quality candidates prepared to take up the challenge of managing this 'laughing stock'.

This 100%. Good post.

 

[Man of Harveys]

Indeed. Some peoples perspective of our own importance is quite amazing. I doubt most other football fans could say what division we are in, let alone who our manager is.

I'd say that, up until Sunday, you'd be absolutely right. A lot more know all about us now, however, as - rightly or wrongly - the club that's crass enough to sack its manager via a TV channel. This may or may not bother you but personally, I think that's fairly shameful.

 

[Tooting Gull]

Not wishing to appear too rude,but it is you who is deluded.Most players,fans and chairmen of other clubs won't give a monkey's toss about what is happening here.We are not that important.
Yes,it may be of passing interest and it gives the press something to feed on for a short while before they return to their ghastly predictable stories of overpaid and over rated Premiership players.
The world will still revolve and life will go on,as will the Albion.We will get a new manager and we will have our usual ups and downs and when the time comes there will be no shortage of quality candidates prepared to take up the challenge of managing this 'laughing stock'.

Be as rude as you like, but you're talking bollocks. Our Championship club who - according to you no one gives a monkeys about - has made headlines, and very bad ones, around the world today in the close season! We are not even playing.

This comes on the back of other very embarrassing episodes for the club, also widely reported, like shit being found in the away dressing room.

You can say you don't care what anyone thinks until the cows come home but most people and organisations do care how they are perceived, otherwise you wouldn't have PR directors paid six-figure sums to take care of that business.

 

[Tooting Gull]

Indeed. Some peoples perspective of our own importance is quite amazing. I doubt most other football fans could say what division we are in, let alone who our manager is.

You are, not for the first time, totally missing or unable to see the point. In the big picture we are a relatively unimportant English Championship club, in the off-season. So precisely for that reason for us to be making these headlines and generating all this unfavourable comment, with big Wimbledon/Ashes/Premier League transfer stories about, it had to be very bad. Understand now?

 

[Hamilton]

Not wishing to appear too rude,but it is you who is deluded.Most players,fans and chairmen of other clubs won't give a monkey's toss about what is happening here.We are not that important.
Yes,it may be of passing interest and it gives the press something to feed on for a short while before they return to their ghastly predictable stories of overpaid and over rated Premiership players.
The world will still revolve and life will go on,as will the Albion.We will get a new manager and we will have our usual ups and downs and when the time comes there will be no shortage of quality candidates prepared to take up the challenge of managing this 'laughing stock'.

I wouldn't worry about appearing rude. I think you should worry more about appearing naive.

 

[Red Side Of Sussex]

Don't worry about it,it's not as though Brighton won't have a huge list of potential candidates chomping at the bit to take on the challenge.

Who remembers Crawley Town appointing Sean O Driscoll at the start of last season.He looked a great appointment and we were all excited for the season ahead.He then decided Crawley wasn't for him and left before the freshly painted walls in his office had dried.Oh no we all cried,what are we to do,the season is only weeks away,what a shambles ,we'r Doomed.
But no,those in charge at the club sorted out the problem and in came Rithie Barker.He went on to have an excellent season in League one,finishing mid table.

The same will happen at Brighton.Its obvious the club have a plan and the new man who takes over will find his feet soon enough and be more then ready when the season kicks off.
But please don't get upset with him when we turn you over t the Broadfield stadium in July.

 

[BLOCK F]

I wouldn't worry about appearing rude. I think you should worry more about appearing naive.

Naive,why?

 

[Tricky Dicky]

You are, not for the first time, totally missing or unable to see the point. In the big picture we are a relatively unimportant English Championship club, in the off-season. So precisely for that reason for us to be making these headlines and generating all this unfavourable comment, with big Wimbledon/Ashes/Premier League transfer stories about, it had to be very bad. Understand now?

But you're looking for the stories and they mean something to you. We have the TV on here all day - seen loads of headlines about Wimbledon, Australia sacking their cricket manager, even still highlights of Saturdays Lions game - not a peep about an insignificant 2nd division clubs' local spat. If you think anyone cares, you're just wrong.

 

[Icy Gull]

I know it's not the same but the shameful sacking of smug Atkins from Saints last season doesn't seem to have done Saints any harm? Yes he was on gardening leave, that may yet happen to Poyet dependant on the result of the appeal. No long term damage done and I imagine much the same will happen here.

It really comes down to winning football matches, if we do ok next season everything will probably just roll along. If we are in a relegation scrap then we will have Poyet mentioned in every match report and interview about us. Football fans around the country will not be interested in us once the season starts, they'll have far more important things to think about, like their own teams. Have a half decent season and the last few weeks will be of little interest to any other clubs to fans.

 

[Tooting Gull]

But you're looking for the stories and they mean something to you. We have the TV on here all day - seen loads of headlines about Wimbledon, Australia sacking their cricket manager, even still highlights of Saturdays Lions game - not a peep about an insignificant 2nd division clubs' local spat. If you think anyone cares, you're just wrong.

Look, its head/brick wall stuff here. Not only is it in every paper but it has been Sky Sports News all day since 8pm last night. Maybe youre watching Loose Women.

 

[BLOCK F]

Be as rude as you like, but you're talking bollocks. Our Championship club who - according to you no one gives a monkeys about - has made headlines, and very bad ones, around the world today in the close season! We are not even playing.

This comes on the back of other very embarrassing episodes for the club, also widely reported, like shit being found in the away dressing room.

You can say you don't care what anyone thinks until the cows come home but most people and organisations do care how they are perceived, otherwise you wouldn't have PR directors paid six-figure sums to take care of that business.

Say what you like and think what you like,but it will all pass and as I said, life will go on or don't you think it will?
By the way,bollocks or not,do you really think a days worth of sensationalised headlines in a few dodgy rags will make a lasting impression in the 'world of sport'?Just think of some of the trashy headlines these publications print on their front pages.Shock horror.
In an ideal world,none of this should have happened as it has,but we are where we are and the point I am trying to make, is that we will survive and no lasting damage will be done to the club.

 

[chucky1973]

this season is a right off now, to progress furhter than 4th meant a full pre season with players coming in early to settle into our style of play. that is out of the window now and we are going to be a long way behind other clubs who we would expect to be up there at the end of the season. For me its about surviving next season and coming back stronger in 2014/15.

 

[Hamilton]

Naive,why?

Because you are criticizing this poster for pointing out that there is a link between negative PR and long-term reputation.

 

[Greavsey]

I'd say that, up until Sunday, you'd be absolutely right. A lot more know all about us now, however, as - rightly or wrongly - the club that's crass enough to sack its manager via a TV channel. This may or may not bother you but personally, I think that's fairly shameful.

Don't you think you're being a bit tabloid about this? Did we really "sack" our manager on TV, or are there grey areas?

 

[Icy Gull]

Because you are criticizing this poster for pointing out that there is a link between negative PR and long-term reputation.

Having Ken Bates in charge at Chelsea, Sheffield Weds(?) and Leeds doesn't seem to have done any long term negative PR harm to any of those clubs. Are you suggesting that Bloom and Barber are as bad or worse than that bearded PR nightmare? So how is this long term negative PR and reputation you worry about going to affect us over the next few years?

Genuine question

Football is not like other brands, it's all about results on the pitch. This over rides everything.

 

[BLOCK F]

Because you are criticizing this poster for pointing out that there is a link between negative PR and long-term reputation.

I may have been called lots of things in my life,but in latter years never naive!
A bit of negative P.R. is NOT the end of the world and as long as an organisation does not continue to garner unfavourable P.R.there is no need to fear for the long-term reputation of said organisation.
Manchester United come to mind.Despite getting stick for being arrogant, greedy,aggressive and probably charging too much for prawn sandwiches, they are probably the best supported and most envied club in the world.
Bottom line;we will get over it and thrive.It is not the end of the world and some people have lost their sense of perspective.

 

[Tooting Gull]

I know it's not the same but the shameful sacking of smug Atkins from Saints last season doesn't seem to have done Saints any harm? Yes he was on gardening leave, that may yet happen to Poyet dependant on the result of the appeal. No long term damage done and I imagine much the same will happen here.

It really comes down to winning football matches, if we do ok next season everything will probably just roll along. If we are in a relegation scrap then we will have Poyet mentioned in every match report and interview about us. Football fans around the country will not be interested in us once the season starts, they'll have far more important things to think about, like their own teams. Have a half decent season and the last few weeks will be of little interest to any other clubs to fans.

Interesting comparison. The situations are clearly different, but yet there are parallels, not least the controversy generated and a clear split among fans. Many Saints fans would have given him longer, but a decent number agreed he might not be the man to take them to the next level. And the board ruthlessness is similar, plus failure/unwillingness to play the PR game. And they have probably been proven right in their judgment. That will be harder to quantify with Poyet.

I do think though that some people underestimate the impact of stories like this on key people. Players. Potential signings. Sponsors. I wonder what Amex make of it all.

Are our better players, the ones who will have options this summer, more or less likely to stay at Brighton after the last six weeks? The same for high-quality potential signings? There is only one answer.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Of course reputation matters. Poogate and the perception of a sacking live on TV look terrible. Embarrassing and nasty. Two things the club could easily do: 1) The club needs to show a bit of class and humility. 2) Bloom needs to do an interview re-assuring people that although it's been a difficult summer (some would say a shambolic mess) the show goes on. And the club, after missing narrowly out on promotion last season, are more determined than an ever to go up when this is sorted out etc. That's all he needs to do and we''ll be back on track.