[Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

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I am voting for .....

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 95 32.2%
  • Change UK

    Votes: 14 4.7%
  • Conservatives

    Votes: 4 1.4%
  • Greens

    Votes: 61 20.7%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 1.0%
  • Labour

    Votes: 11 3.7%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 88 29.8%
  • Socialist Party

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • UK European Party

    Votes: 2 0.7%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • No-one !

    Votes: 15 5.1%

  • Total voters
    295
  • Poll closed .


gazingdown

Well-known member
Feb 26, 2011
1,071
That surly was the very point since the referendum in 2016 those who were unable to vote being too young are now left with the consequences of those who voted leave who have since done exactly what they voted for and left this mortal world
And in 3 years time there will more, and then 3 years from that even more, and 3 years from that even more, repeat ad-finitum.

We had a vote 45 years ago to join with no subsequent vote for 42 years yet those under 63 had to “live with the consequences”.

Maybe have a vote to rejoin in 20/30 years time, if there’s a public demand for it.
 








daveinplzen

New member
Aug 31, 2018
2,846
You just post it. Thought I had tw@ts like you who just post stupid insuls on ignore.







I have now.

Got any answer to the direct question, or are you still too scared to embarrass yourself, or have you just ran away?

Edit: Actually I know.
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
11,839
Crawley
Brexit party will tell the EU to feck off with the divorcement bill. That's one of the few things I like about them. spend the Billions on our own economy.

One of the things we will owe them money for is our share of Farages Pension, as well as everyone else that has been employed to work on our behalf in the EU. The rest is spending commitments the EU made and we agreed upon as a member, this is reckoned to be about £85 Billion, but we have a share of EU assets as well as a share of it's liabilities, so is reduced by £50 Billion.
If we are looking to do deals with other Governments, welching on commitments we have made is not a good idea, anyone would be wary of dealings with people known to have form for walking away from their obligations.
 






Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
11,839
Crawley
And in 3 years time there will more, and then 3 years from that even more, and 3 years from that even more, repeat ad-finitum.

We had a vote 45 years ago to join with no subsequent vote for 42 years yet those under 63 had to “live with the consequences”.

Maybe have a vote to rejoin in 20/30 years time, if there’s a public demand for it.

There is public demand for one now, more than there was for one in 2016.
 


gazingdown

Well-known member
Feb 26, 2011
1,071
Maybe in the heads of some anti democratic remainers and the pro-remain media establishment.

Nearly everyone I know (both leave and remain) just want brexit sorted, there is little demand for ye5 another vote, they don’t want to go through it all over again.
 




Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
The 39 billion was a random figure to compensate for the shock of us leaving the EU economy,chosen by useless civil servants like Oily Robbins.Our normal commitments would be on top of that.
 




bazbha

Active member
Mar 18, 2011
308
Hailsham
There is public demand for one now, more than there was for one in 2016.

How do you know that? Because the BBC tells you there is or because your circle of friends all agree with you? I don't know either. No one does. All my circle of friends voted leave and they still think the same way. Personally I don't think many people have changed their minds but I wouldn't quote that as a fact.
 




Jan 30, 2008
31,981
Maybe in the heads of some anti democratic remainers and the pro-remain media establishment.

Nearly everyone I know (both leave and remain) just want brexit sorted, there is little demand for ye5 another vote, they don’t want to go through it all over again.

Blaim some of the media the BBC being one of the main culprits for peddling anti Brexit anti democratic fear mongering
regards
DR
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
11,839
Crawley
How do you know that? Because the BBC tells you there is or because your circle of friends all agree with you? I don't know either. No one does. All my circle of friends voted leave and they still think the same way. Personally I don't think many people have changed their minds but I wouldn't quote that as a fact.

Before the 2016 Referendum was announced, there was not a march of hundreds of thousands of people in London asking for one.
There was also not a petition of several millions asking for one. That is a fact.
 


bazbha

Active member
Mar 18, 2011
308
Hailsham
Before the 2016 Referendum was announced, there was not a march of hundreds of thousands of people in London asking for one.
There was also not a petition of several millions asking for one. That is a fact.

That's true. There are undoubtedly millions of people who just can't accept the fact they lost & are very vocal about it. It doesn't mean there is more demand than before. No one knows whether there is more or less demand than before including me.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,097
Faversham
Before the 2016 Referendum was announced, there was not a march of hundreds of thousands of people in London asking for one.
There was also not a petition of several millions asking for one. That is a fact.

The problem was the country was split down the middle. I suspect the same still holds. The numbers of marchers is not really salient.

But it is important to note that we are lurching towards a second referendum not because the howls and tears of the marching snowflakes has forced the government's hand. It is because it is not possible to negociate a Brexit unless we build a wall between Eire and Ulster to permit a hard no deal Brexit, put a customs and passport border in the Irish sea and throw the Ulstermen and women to the dogs, or agree to stay in a customs union and allow free movement of people (which even I, a remainer, would accept is not a Brexit). There are some slight variations on these themes but this is basically it.

It still baffles me that the noisiest minority want a no deal Brexit that will immediately allows a porous border between Eire and Ulster for illegal immigration and illegal trading. As far as I can see, their only response to this is that they don't care about Northern Ireland, and it won't happen like this anyway, and any price is worth paying to 'get back control'. And of course they don't care about the immediate need for passports and visas to France and the Costa Del Sol because they never go there.

There is one poster on here I now have on ignore who has been most consistent in his views. Brexit means Brexit. We need to leave, hard, today, and deal with the consequences later. There is a kind of admirable mindless purity to this that is reminiscent of certain hard line catholics, whose solution to everything is to pray and self-flagellate. Admirable, but you wouldn't want such people making any decisions on behalf of the rest of us, from the future of the nation to whether or not to have another cup of tea.
 


Baker lite

Banned
Mar 16, 2017
6,309
in my house
What is quite clear here, in the whole history of election, never have the losing side been given more concessions or legitimacy than the side that actually won.
What is refreshing though, despite all the condescending jibes and sniping from the liberal elite, the resolve of those of us on the correct side of history are not cowed by the bullying and turning up of noses, if anything it just strengthens the case to get out.
 


D

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How do you know that? Because the BBC tells you there is or because your circle of friends all agree with you? I don't know either. No one does. All my circle of friends voted leave and they still think the same way. Personally I don't think many people have changed their minds but I wouldn't quote that as a fact.

I don't know anyone who has changed their mind either.
 


Jan 30, 2008
31,981
Before the 2016 Referendum was announced, there was not a march of hundreds of thousands of people in London asking for one.
There was also not a petition of several millions asking for one. That is a fact.

No , but the rise of UKIP soon kicked the government into action And so will the Brexit party
regards
DR
 




Guinness Boy

Tofu eating wokerati
Helpful Moderator
NSC Patron
Jul 23, 2003
37,339
Up and Coming Sunny Portslade
What is quite clear here, in the whole history of election, never have the losing side been given more concessions or legitimacy than the side that actually won.
What is refreshing though, despite all the condescending jibes and sniping from the liberal elite, the resolve of those of us on the correct side of history are not cowed by the bullying and turning up of noses, if anything it just strengthens the case to get out.

Weren't we on our way by legal default in March?
 


shingle

Well-known member
Jan 18, 2004
3,223
Lewes
What is quite clear here, in the whole history of election, never have the losing side been given more concessions or legitimacy than the side that actually won.
What is refreshing though, despite all the condescending jibes and sniping from the liberal elite, the resolve of those of us on the correct side of history are not cowed by the bullying and turning up of noses, if anything it just strengthens the case to get out.

Post of the day :thumbsup:
 


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