[Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

[KZNSeagull]

What is clear from last night is that those parties with a clear Brexit policy, either leave or remain, have done the best - the Brexit Party, Lib Dems, SNP and PC noticably so. Tories and Labour have done badly for different reasons - Tories because no-one likes the May deal and Labour because no-one likes a bunch of dithering fence sitters.

Interestingly, the only person I have heard speak this morning from the Tories, Steve Baker, has a clear plan - go back to the EU and get the FTA deal that the EU offered TM last year. No talk of No deal.

Labour will take months to decide what they may want to do, by then it will be too late. They need to make a clear decision now, today, as to what their policy is and stick to it. They would also do well by getting a new leader asap, one who can actually make a decision (and I don't mean back a 2nd referendum).

Change UK need to formulate some policies sharpish as their new way of doing politics appears, so far, to be "we cannot decide, you must decide for us" which is not going to help anything at all.

But the biggest winner was obviously the 63% who didn't vote who, if the BBC's visit to a Solihull car boot sale is representative of the nation, are made up of "I didn't know it was happening", "I don't understand it", "I voted to leave and they have ignored me so I didn't bother voting this time" and "What's the point?" which is just splendid.

 

[beorhthelm]

But the biggest winner was obviously the 63% who didn't vote who, if the BBC's visit to a Solihull car boot sale is representative of the nation, are made up of "I didn't know it was happening", "I don't understand it", "I voted to leave and they have ignored me so I didn't bother voting this time" and "What's the point?" which is just splendid.

good point. yet people, pundits and politicans want to decide policy and future direction on the result on ~20% vote. nothing has changed, until parties and politicans make assertive decisions it wont.

Change UK is shown as a gimmick. i heard their leader saying the election came too quickly for them to organise. especially daft when Brexit got their act together in less time.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Reading back at the predictable reactions from the usual suspects on here we can see that the result doesn't matter because a pro-Brexit party received the largest share of the vote (again). Obviously, if a pro remain party had finished first by a significant margin the same people would have insisted the country had changed its mind and hailed the death of Brexit. Next up, adding all the pro remain (with varying positions) smaller parties vote share to get to a number that beats the Brexit party and UKIP combined share of the vote .... conveniently not including the Conservative party that holds a pro-Brexit position. Labour's position although supposedly committed to delivering a 'Labour' Brexit changes every time McDonnell or any shadow frontbencher appears on tv so hard to put them in either camp. Finally, the few who stink out most threads with their juvenile/trolling contributions screaming 'racists'.

The European elections, the supposed EU showpiece democratic event for voter accountability has once again seen an anti-EU party receive the largest share of the vote returning the biggest block of MEP's. I also note the midlands marginal seats and surprisingly the south-west both had strong Brexit party vote share.

 

[Hampster Gull]

What is clear from last night is that those parties with a clear Brexit policy, either leave or remain, have done the best - the Brexit Party, Lib Dems, SNP and PC noticably so. Tories and Labour have done badly for different reasons - Tories because no-one likes the May deal and Labour because no-one likes a bunch of dithering fence sitters.

Interestingly, the only person I have heard speak this morning from the Tories, Steve Baker, has a clear plan - go back to the EU and get the FTA deal that the EU offered TM last year. No talk of No deal.

Labour will take months to decide what they may want to do, by then it will be too late. They need to make a clear decision now, today, as to what their policy is and stick to it. They would also do well by getting a new leader asap, one who can actually make a decision (and I don't mean back a 2nd referendum).

Change UK need to formulate some policies sharpish as their new way of doing politics appears, so far, to be "we cannot decide, you must decide for us" which is not going to help anything at all.

But the biggest winner was obviously the 63% who didn't vote who, if the BBC's visit to a Solihull car boot sale is representative of the nation, are made up of "I didn't know it was happening", "I don't understand it", "I voted to leave and they have ignored me so I didn't bother voting this time" and "What's the point?" which is just splendid.

The Solihull car boot car interviews were fun and depressing at the same time. When the interviewer asked one woman about Brexit she said he may as well be talking French......

 

[Happy Exile]

The European elections, the supposed EU showpiece democratic event for voter accountability has once again seen an anti-EU party receive the largest share of the vote returning the biggest block of MEP's.

These are two different things. At the moment the biggest vote share is for unambiguously anti-Brexit parties. That's different from who has actually won the more seats which is like any other constituency type election. If there was a second referendum as things stand, with this low voter turnout and the same spread, Remain would win...this election has shown nothing except how polarised the country is.

(At the time I'm writing this clear anti-Brexit parties have 5% higher voter share than clear pro-Brexit.)

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Most?? He is how I consider most Brexiteers to be fair
Still waiting for one of them to offer some demonstrably proven positives regarding the countries economy and future if the
country leaves without a deal.
So far, all ive been told is we can control our own laws, which we do anyway, and which I also cannot imagine are much different from EU laws.
In order not to pay the EU, what is it? around 180 million a week (in reality, not fantasy) the economic uncertainty is costing the UK In the region of 800 million a week according to the Bank of England. So, really want to hear some coherent reasons from a Brexiteer regarding this masterclass of throwing your country off a cliff.

It depends on how much tax you pay as to your contribution. EG If you earn £26K a year, your contribution is £54, very slightly over £1 a week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36470341

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Don't do that.

What I do is just ignore the vast majority of whiny crap the same way you ignore whining pets when you are getting on with something. Then, just occasionally you get absolute comedy Gold and the whining was all worth it. To be fair, if you are looking for a higher percentage of comedy gold to whining, Two profs is a better bet

how did your vote go by the way ?
regards
DR

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Reading back at the predictable reactions from the usual suspects on here we can see that the result doesn't matter because a pro-Brexit party received the largest share of the vote (again). Obviously, if a pro remain party had finished first by a significant margin the same people would have insisted the country had changed its mind and hailed the death of Brexit. Next up, adding all the pro remain (with varying positions) smaller parties vote share to get to a number that beats the Brexit party and UKIP combined share of the vote .... conveniently not including the Conservative party that holds a pro-Brexit position. Labour's position although supposedly committed to delivering a 'Labour' Brexit changes every time McDonnell or any shadow frontbencher appears on tv so hard to put them in either camp. Finally, the few who stink out most threads with their juvenile/trolling contributions screaming 'racists'.

The European elections, the supposed EU showpiece democratic event for voter accountability has once again seen an anti-EU party receive the largest share of the vote returning the biggest block of MEP's. I also note the midlands marginal seats and surprisingly the south-west both had strong Brexit party vote share.

London is the last stronghold for the remoaners, who would have guessed that
regards
DR

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Most?? He is how I consider most Brexiteers to be fair
Still waiting for one of them to offer some demonstrably proven positives regarding the countries economy and future if the
country leaves without a deal.
So far, all ive been told is we can control our own laws, which we do anyway, and which I also cannot imagine are much different from EU laws.
In order not to pay the EU, what is it? around 180 million a week (in reality, not fantasy) the economic uncertainty is costing the UK In the region of 800 million a week according to the Bank of England. So, really want to hear some coherent reasons from a Brexiteer regarding this masterclass of throwing your country off a cliff.

but you don't live here
regards
DR

 

[Two Professors]

London is the last stronghold for the remoaners, who would have guessed that
regards
DR

Even there,a couple of Brexit MEP's.
In other news,remainers have written to the Prem demanding Man City's title is withdrawn,as if you add up all the points everybody else got,they didn't win.

 

[Eeyore]

Even there,a couple of Brexit MEP's.
In other news,remainers have written to the Prem demanding Man City's title is withdrawn,as if you add up all the points everybody else got,they didn't win.

No, it's because they lied about a few things....

 

[Spicy]

London is the last stronghold for the remoaners, who would have guessed that
regards
DR

I live in London and I voted Brexit.

 

[Mellotron]

17.4m Brexit votes in 2016.
5m Brexit votes in 2019.

Decimated.

The people have spoken - less than 10% want Brexit. Will Government respect Democracy and the Will of the People?

 

[Is it PotG?]

Decimated.

The people have spoken - less than 10% want Brexit. Will Government respect Democracy and the Will of the People?

Doubt it, haven't done it for many, many moons. Still waiting for 2016 to be delivered....join the backlog.

 

[Fungus]

17.4m Brexit votes in 2016.
5m Brexit votes in 2019.

Decimated.

Fewer than the Remain petition.

 

[Diablo]

17.4m Brexit votes in 2016.
5m Brexit votes in 2019.

Decimated.

The people have spoken - less than 10% want Brexit. Will Government respect Democracy and the Will of the People?

Bit different, but of course you know that ....2016 two horse race..............2019 10 horse race .......and you are assuming everyone who didn`t vote is a remainer. why ?

 

[daveinplzen]

but you don't live here
regards
DR

We live in the same place doughnut.
Its called the European Union.

 

[Chicken Run]

We live in the same place doughnut.
Its called the European Union.

The European Union is not a place ffs

 

[daveinplzen]

The European Union is not a place ffs

Yet, you seem desperate to leave it. A seeker of the truth, cool.

Maybe you are the one who could tell me what demonstrably true positives there are, regarding the countries future, and economic welfare, when or If leaving the EU?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

The European Union is not a place ffs

place
/pleɪs/
noun
1.
a particular position, point, or area in space; a location.

I think it is.