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Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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England carrying on from where they left off. Thrashed the PM XI by 7 wickets with Bell hitting an unbeaten ton.

And of particular interest to Sussex fans, Yards was best bowler with 3-33 off 9 overs

Good to see Australia's new generation of fast bowlers Pattinson and Copeland getting a bit of tap too. Future's looking bright.
 








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From The Times:

England batsman bought for £420,000 by Deccan Chargers but price proves anything but right for several other Ashes stars

It could be you, as the lottery slogan has it, but it probably won’t if you are an England cricketer. Winning the Ashes and the World Twenty20 in the past 12 months counts for little in the eyes of the tycoons who hold the purse strings for the ten Indian Premier League (IPL) franchises.

Fifteen millionaires were created in Bangalore over the weekend in the auction for the fourth season of the IPL, but the highest-rated Englishman was Kevin Pietersen, who was bought by Deccan Chargers, from Hyderabad, for $650,000 (about £420,000). It is not bad money for a few weeks’ work over the next two years, but it represents a drop of $900,000 on the amount that Royal Challengers Bangalore bid for him when he was first auctioned in 2009.

Two years ago Pietersen was the joint-most expensive player in the IPL. Now, with all bar a dozen “reserved” star players such as Sachin Tendulkar and Shane Warne put back up for auction, he is merely the 40th best-paid on a list headed by young Indians.

Gautam Gambhir was bought by Kolkata Knight Riders for $2.4 million and they used another $2.1 million of the $9 million each team is allowed to spend on Yusuf Pathan. At least someone wanted Pietersen, even if they were prepared to pay $50,000 less for him than Chennai Super Kings paid for Doug Bollinger, the Australia fast bowler whose champagne moments in the Ashes series were rather flat.

The likes of Chris Gayle, Sourav Ganguly, Sanath Jayasuriya and Brian Lara failed to attract a bid, while Rahul Dravid and V. V. S. Laxman, ageing heroes for India, earned less than $1 million between them. Twenty20 is a young man’s game.

Pietersen was one of only seven England-qualified players bought in the auction. Paul Collingwood, who captained England to victory in the 2010 World Twenty20, was bought by Rajasthan Royals for $250,000; Stuart Broad, who had resisted the lure of the rupee for the past two years, was bought for $400,000 by Kings XI Punjab and Eoin Morgan picked up for $350,000 by Kolkata.

Owais Shah, Dimitri Mascarenhas and Michael Lumb were also bought for $200,000, $100,000 and $80,000 respectively, taking the total amount spent on England-qualified players to a little over $2 million. By contrast, more than 30 Australians were bought for a cumulative sum of about $12 million.

More than 400 cricketers put their names forward for the auction. They were whittled down to 350, which included 34 Englishmen. The likes of Darren Stevens and Wes Durston are probably not household names in Kochi, the Kerala city host to one of the two new teams to enter the IPL this year, but surely no less famous than Chris Lynn and Nathan Rimmington, two little-known Australians bought for $20,000 each.

One reason for the lack of interest in England players is their availability. The counties will only tolerate their players being away for so long. With the IPL season running until May 22, four days before the first Test match of the summer, the England internationals would also be unavailable for the league play-offs.

The likes of Graeme Swann, James Anderson and Ian Bell will be disappointed not to have attracted a bid, as will Ravi Bopara, who made more of an impact in the IPL when he played for Kings XI Punjab than most of his compatriots. Swann and Anderson may have spoilt their chances by giving themselves the highest reserve price of $400,000, although that price tag was more justified for them than it was for Luke Wright and Michael Yardy, who will start the season in Hove rather than Hyderabad.
 


Stat Brother

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It's a very perohcial event.
If you're going to shell out millions you'd want the player around for longer than 6 weeks.

It's not about winning, it's making the cash back and more, you've spent at the start.
 








Gwylan

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I'm a bit surprised that Yards wasn't wanted. He's a lousy first-class bowler but he's a great defensive dobber for the T20 - possibly even better than Swann - and is a much better batsman. The overlap with the CC must be a bit of a worry though - still, good news for Sussex.
 




simmo

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I'm a bit surprised that Yards wasn't wanted. He's a lousy first-class bowler but he's a great defensive dobber for the T20 - possibly even better than Swann - and is a much better batsman. The overlap with the CC must be a bit of a worry though - still, good news for Sussex.

I would take issue with him being a lousy first class bowler. At Hove in the one dayers I actually think he is one of our best bowlers. Many, many times I have seen innings were the opposition seem to be scoring freely off the seamers, Yards then comes on and firstly seems to slow the run rate and then takes wickets. You underestimate his bowling.
 


Gwylan

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I would take issue with him being a lousy first class bowler. At Hove in the one dayers I actually think he is one of our best bowlers.

Eh? He's a great one-day bowler - I said he was a lousy first-class bowler. The figures don't lie: in 11 seasons, he's taken a grand total of 26 wickets at an average of 77. Sounds pretty lousy to me
 


simmo

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Eh? He's a great one-day bowler - I said he was a lousy first-class bowler. The figures don't lie: in 11 seasons, he's taken a grand total of 26 wickets at an average of 77. Sounds pretty lousy to me

One dayer's are first class games too you know. It is just they are limited overs. I catch your drift though. TBH he doesn't really bowl that much in the 4 day game. I can hardly remember him bowling at all last summer....as Monty done the business :thumbsup:
 




8ace

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One dayer's are first class games too you know. It is just they are limited overs. I catch your drift though. TBH he doesn't really bowl that much in the 4 day game. I can hardly remember him bowling at all last summer....as Monty done the business :thumbsup:

One dayers are "List A" NOT first class games.
 


Seagull over NZ

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One of the problems is that the IPL franchises have to have a certain number of Indian players in a squad. So for a specialist spinner to take one of the foreign player spots, they have to be a bit special, or be able to bat pretty well. The Indians produce a number of good spinners who can bat so they tend to look for the overseas players to be express pace, all rounders or top order batsmen. They are of the opinion that Swann, as an offie, is canon fodder in the IPL. I would disagree as he has proved at the international stage that he is a match winner in T20 cricket. But as as been mentioned above here, the relative prices of some of the players bears little relation to their cricketing ability. Some of the bargains were great but then some of the prices paid for a few of the players was ridiculous. Think the biggest bargain was probably Shakib from Bangladesh, a quality all rounder.
 


Gwylan

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Think the biggest bargain was probably Shakib from Bangladesh, a quality all rounder.

Yeah, a good buy that one. Was staggered to see that no-one bought Tamim Iqbal - he's class. Perhaps Sussex could try to get him as on overseas player for 20/20.
 






Pavilionaire

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I watched Yardy's stint last night. He and Tredwell bowled in tandem and took the Aussies from 70-odd for 0 after 12 overs to 140-odd for 3 off 28 overs, so 70-3 off 16 overs.

And Yardy had a bloody good shout against Ferguson turned down by the umpire much to the astonishment of the Sky commentary box.
 


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