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Gritt23

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Jul 7, 2003
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Maybe it's just me, but when I look around the England squad I see far fewer dicks than I did a few years ago.

I agree with that.

I can understand an element of wanting to see the likes of JT brought down a peg or two. That never over-powered my desire to see England do well, but I could understand it. The squad now, only really has Cole (for me, he has genuine competion from Baines these days) and Rooney, who fall into the "dick" category.

Elsewhere, it's largely a very likeable bunch. Of course Stevie G will always peddle out the "ach, we know that wasn't our best performance" when past history suggests it might be actually, but hey, what's he supposed to say? "Look, it's you lot who keep saying this squad is full of World Class players, but frankly it's not. At this level, without the foreign stars in our clubs sides, we're pretty average." Of course not. He is a passionate England player, Frank has never shown a hint of "retiring from International football" to prolong his bank balance, sorry, his club career. We don't have any signs of a Carragher permitting us to pick him when the tournament comes round, and NO BLOODY JOHN TERRY.

Yeah, it's a very valid point you make, the "dick-o-meter" is running pretty low in the squad these days, and that has to help the overall image of the group.
 






hans kraay fan club

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hans kraay fan club

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LOL.

"He got it all wrong Clive, can't be shooting from there. Needs to get it across the face."

"What's your view of this start, Andy?"

"Well, he's feeling his way into things, Clive. He's certainly got his hands full with the big two up top"
 




dougdeep

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May 9, 2004
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I don't think they actually DO get paid, do they? I thought they got some form of 'allowance' which was always given to charity.

Then you're wrong. They get a hefty wage that they choose to keep.
 


Gritt23

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"What's your view of this start, Andy?"

"Well, he's feeling his way into things, Clive. He's certainly got his hands full with the big two up top"

"Peter has snuck in round the back. He briefly checked he hadn't been flagged for a foul, but no, he's ok to continue."
 






hans kraay fan club

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England should stop paying players to play. Then we might get a team of players that want to play. To be honest if the Albion Development team were playing in a stadium next door then I'd rather watch them than England.

I don't think they actually DO get paid, do they? I thought they got some form of 'allowance' which was always given to charity.

They gave their fees from the World Cup in 2010 to charity - http://www.thefa.com/england/News/2010/together-170510

And they did the same thing at Euro 2012 - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/euro2012/article-2153865/Euro-2012-England-set-100k-bonus.html

A quick Google suggests they do this sort of thing for regular games too.

Then you're wrong. They get a hefty wage that they choose to keep.

I don't know the answer. I hope that, as TCB's links above suggest, that I'm not wrong.

They would still be getting their (huge) club wages during the time they are with the national team, anyway, so you'd hope they would have it in them to forego any additional allowance. A quick look on google is pretty inconclusive either way.
 




Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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am i the only one ,not that interested in this?
Didn't know it was on. If it's not a friendly, I'll try and watch it.
 




hans kraay fan club

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Seeing as it's always good to prove a dullard wrong, I'll help you out with this link to the England Footballers Foundation, which is where their money ends up. If you want to/can be bothered to read about what they actually do with it then look here - http://www.englandfootballersfoundation.com/

But if you can't, the only info you need can be found on the homepage: "The England Footballers Foundation was established in 2007 when the players decided to donate all of their England match fees and time to good causes. This was the start of a lasting legacy for future England squads to come."


Thanks for that. Good to know.
 


nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
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I don't know the answer. I hope that, as TCB's links above suggest, that I'm not wrong.

They would still be getting their (huge) club wages during the time they are with the national team, anyway, so you'd hope they would have it in them to forego any additional allowance. A quick look on google is pretty inconclusive either way.

They've been giving all their international fees to charity, via the England Footballers' Foundation, since 2007. They just don't make a massive song and dance about it.
 




Scoffers

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Jan 13, 2004
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The only issue is ITV are so sh1te at this, I may experiment as only one in tonight and have 5-live and a silent TV but does the Radio commentary get out of sync ?

Oh and looking forward to the game

The MUTE button is your friend
 


Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
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A little BET will add some interest, too.

I predict a comfortable 2-0 home win, greeted by a euphoric press declaring us as favourites for the World Cup*


*Until the inevitable 0-0 draw against Poland on Tuesday, relegates us to a play-off.

Just on that front, I believe Paddy Power are refunding all losing Scorecast bets if Gerrard scores tonight.
 


Westdene Seagull

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Oct 27, 2003
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The arse end of Hangleton
Tonight's England v Montenegro match is on ITV so not only is there that god awful bunch of tuneless tosspots, the self-styled "england band", we also have the worst commentary pair of Clive Tyldesley and Andy Townsend. Couple that with a probably lacklustre performance from a bunch of over-paid prima donnas, Pug-faced Adrian Chiles' gormless inanity, Roy Keane's glowering and Lee bloody Dixon and it's set to drive me round the twist for two hours.
Yet I'll still watch it, I know I will.
I deserve all I get I suppose

Not forgetting that you have a good chance that ITV will miss a key goal !
 


Superphil

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Jul 7, 2003
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In a pile of football shirts
*tonight
 




stss30

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Apr 24, 2008
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Seeing as it's always good to prove a dullard wrong, I'll help you out with this link to the England Footballers Foundation, which is where their money ends up. If you want to/can be bothered to read about what they actually do with it then look here - http://www.englandfootballersfoundation.com/

But if you can't, the only info you need can be found on the homepage: "The England Footballers Foundation was established in 2007 when the players decided to donate all of their England match fees and time to good causes. This was the start of a lasting legacy for future England squads to come."

Funny how some make wild assumptions without any facts to back them up. Good work.
 


stripeyshark

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Dec 20, 2011
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I'm actualy up for these two, they are important games against decent sides & for once we have an inform strike force (Rooney, Welbeck, Sturridge & Defoe have all scored plenty this year.

This man could piss all over the foreigners tonight.
 


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