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Embarrassing collapse of form



Spinal Wheels

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Apr 9, 2012
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What worries me especially with not having scored for well over nine hours, is that we went through a similar spell of not scoring under Hughton over the last 7 or 8 games of last season & that only stopped when we ran out of games left to play.
I know momentum is a huge thing in football, but sadly for us we either don't lose until we break records or don't win until we break records. We are still in the mix of the Play Off's suprisingly, but continue in this present form & our season could be over come the end of next month.
 




Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
43,093
Lancing
The facts are we were good for the first 7 games and that is it. Since then we have been at best very average with 5 wins and 25 points from 19 matches and going out at the first hurdle in both cup matches
 


heathgate

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Apr 13, 2015
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You know, the worst thing about this collapse in form? It will have a tangible affect on the decision making of players and agents during this key recruitment window. I fear we will now have to resort to 2nd rate discards rather than the top line coups that were taking shape a month ago.

# doomed to another season of close but no cigar.
 


Dave the OAP

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Jul 5, 2003
46,761
at home
This is spot on. Injuries really haven't helped, but even during the run we were hardly ever convincing.

I never say stuff like this on here but i think something is really wrong, fundamentally, at our club. It started with the whole Poyet fiasco and has continued ever since, with our unbeaten run merely papering over some pretty unsightly cracks.
Jones leaving just another example. You really telling me managing Luton should be preferable to coaching us?

I think the main concern regarding injuries is that this has just exposed what a very poor squad we have taking out 4or5 of our top players....and the fact that we have all theses development squads etc and the manager doesn't think that any of them can step up in our hour of need...rather we are looking to spend money.

One really does need to ask if the trying academy is there to produce young talent to sell to fund our own spending. Ok it has only just opened, however poyet signed players " for the development squad" but I can't think of many who have broken through
 


Uncle Spielberg

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What was the point in signing Hambo and Harper ? Are they still here ?
 




DJ NOBO

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Jul 18, 2004
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This is spot on. Injuries really haven't helped, but even during the run we were hardly ever convincing.

I never say stuff like this on here but i think something is really wrong, fundamentally, at our club. It started with the whole Poyet fiasco and has continued ever since, with our unbeaten run merely papering over some pretty unsightly cracks.
Jones leaving just another example. You really telling me managing Luton should be preferable to coaching us?

Can you not see why he might have taken that job even if he was enjoying it at Albion???
 


maltaseagull

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Feb 25, 2009
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This is spot on. Injuries really haven't helped, but even during the run we were hardly ever convincing.

I never say stuff like this on here but i think something is really wrong, fundamentally, at our club. It started with the whole Poyet fiasco and has continued ever since, with our unbeaten run merely papering over some pretty unsightly cracks.
Jones leaving just another example. You really telling me managing Luton should be preferable to coaching us?




Yes, he is the main man and even though a smaller pond, he is the big fish.
Given the choice of waiting for Hughton to go and hoping to get his chance then or going for a managers job now is quite understandable. (Sorry to see him go mind)
 


blue'n'white

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Oct 5, 2005
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Can you not see why he might have taken that job even if he was enjoying it at Albion???

99% of coaches want to try their hand at management at some stage - I'm sure Nathan Jones is no different.
Our season started to collapse with the loss of Bong and then went from bad to worse with the loss of Rosenior - the two will be back soon ish (I hope) but the impetus has been lost mainly through bad luck
Because of that we've been forced to flog our creative players to death as we have little else and they're looking completely cream crackered now
We do need a decent striker though - someone who could take the half chances but, if we don't create half chances, even the best strikers in the world won't come up with anything
Ragnar mar Larusson scored a hat trick for the u21s the other night and Akindayini scored two - get them on the bench. Could they do any worse ?
 






heathgate

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Ragnar mar Larusson scored a hat trick for the u21s the other night and Akindayini scored two - get them on the bench. Could they do any worse ?

Don't be daft, we have a finely tuned system of burying talent in the u21/development squad until they finally get released to make way for the next tranche to be treated the same way.

I would question coaching, somewhere below the 1st team coaches, there seems to be a block on advancement.
 






Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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It't not an 'embarrassing collapse of form' tho is it? It's an unfortunate run of injuries to the key players who got us up there in the first place.
 


goldstone

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What was the point in signing Hambo and Harper ? Are they still here ?

Were they two bad signings, are they injured, or what? A shame that they and Tilley were not in the squad for the Hull game so that they could have been given a first team outing in a match where the result didn't matter.

As for the success or otherwise of the academy, I think we have to give it and the people who run it some time to start turning out decent players, but a gleam or two of hope would be nice.
 


storer

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Nov 28, 2010
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4.....4 defeats all season.....I couldn't give a toss if they have come all in a row or spread out over our games so far...we have been only been beaten 4 times....same as table toppers Boro...

Nothing about this season is or has been embarrassing...embarrassing was having the likes of O'Grady and Halford playing week in week out and sitting down in 20th

If I was our chairman and I saw the almost hilarious comments and negativity 'where is hambo and harper' '& 'is LuaLua going to retweet being fat and shit' for example, I wouldn't spend a single penny more. After a season like last year, and the turn around in such a short space of time...it honeslty is unbelievable!

The majority of clubs would take years to bounce back from a season like ours last year. We are top 6 in January the season after.

My Opinion. That's all.
 






Hotchilidog

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Jan 24, 2009
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It't not an 'embarrassing collapse of form' tho is it? It's an unfortunate run of injuries to the key players who got us up there in the first place.

Agreed. Flipping heck people seem rather quick to throw the towel in around here.The team that took us to the top is not the team that is suffering this reverse in fortune, if it were then I would be truly worried.

Whilst it is apparent that we couldn't beat an egg at the moment, I am confident that a fully fit squad should keep us in the hunt for the playoffs at least this season.

That said it is perfectly acceptable to be bloody furious about last night's result.
 


Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
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It't not an 'embarrassing collapse of form' tho is it? It's an unfortunate run of injuries to the key players who got us up there in the first place.

Would March, Bong, Rosenior made a difference last night? I don't think so.

The same strikers that fired us up the league are the ones that are now misfiring, that is an embarrassing collapse
 


BigGully

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Sep 8, 2006
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Time will tell, have you ever thought, just perhaps it was a lucky good run of form at the beginning and this is just what happens to those clubs only good enough to compete for a top half finish, they ride their luck, a good save here a lucky bobble there or the opposite if you dont succeed to get to the play-offs.

Just think back to a game when we were flying when we were under the cosh but won, if you analyse it was it really great defending and 'winning when not playing well' mantra or just frigging luck, the top 3 or 4 clubs will be the best within the league no doubt whilst the bottom 3 or 4 clubs would have been shown to be not good enough for this level this season, the rest generally are nicking points off each other some deserved mostly not, its how it works.

Hughton will deride his bad luck during the bad spells whilst highlighting his attention to detail when he is not losing, you all fall for it and we continue until his luck 'returns' or 'runs out' when he is either sacked or becomes an Albion legend.
 




Insel affe

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Feb 23, 2009
24,330
Brighton factually.....
...and all this is why I have been going to BHA games since early 1970s and shall continue to do so. It is football, it follows no logic nor reason. It is brilliant.

This is so true, I feel the disappointment of a complete nose dive in form from a seemingly nailed on play off spot , possibly even a automatic place....

That said am I truly upset and was it unexpected..... Nah we know what the Albion are like, we know that we can blow a seemingly nailed on good thing, we also are well aware that we are capable of turning this around and grabbing a last minute play off spot and even wining at the final against all the odds.... That is football....

Yes we can look at the injuries to some very important and influential players, they make a big difference not only on the pitch but behind the scenes on match days
Not to mention mistakes by Lewis, Bruno and others.... What do we expect from Championship players they all have a mistake in them,
I would rather now than a dramatic nose dive and slip out of the top six on the last day of the season in my onion...

Chris did exactly what was required last season and kept us up, all the time he was also preparing for this season, a few in coming players and boy what a start, so the wheels have come off....

Are the signs good, would we be sailing away if KLL & Bong not got injured, who knows....

It is football, It is the Albion....

I for one am still immensely happy & proud with the progress the club & squad have made....

Do these need changing at the top..... Don't be silly...

Do some players need to either up their performance or new players bringing in.... Yes, but that is a concern in EVERY club....

Football & The Albion....

Love it....
 


c0lz

North East Stand.
Jan 26, 2010
2,203
Patcham/Brighton
We gone from drawing most of our games now to losing, yes unfortunately we had a few injuries but didnt we have adequate cover as back ups,
the defending has been awful of late but its the lack of goals that are the main problem even when we did win a game it was by the one goal.
 


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