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[Technology] Electrosensitivity - Real or Not?



Palacefinder General

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Apr 5, 2019
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Sensitivity to mobile phone masts etc. The NHS doesn't recognise it as a real health condition, whereas in Sweden they do. Anyone any experience of it? Know anyone who suffers from it?
 




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It is what is known as fake science.
 




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I know H, I also know a couple of people who are selling up and moving to the sticks as a result of this (unproven) condition. Hmmm

Tell them the sticks have powerlines everywhere. I live in a wilderness, and I have electricity in my actual house, FFS. How come I'm not dead? ???

:lolol::cheers:
 






Goldstone1976

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Sensitivity to mobile phone masts etc. The NHS doesn't recognise it as a real health condition, whereas in Sweden they do. Anyone any experience of it? Know anyone who suffers from it?

Some 4G networks in the UK operate at 2.6GHz (some of Vodafone for example). Microwave ovens typically operate at 2.45GHz, right in the middle of the unregulated ISM band of 2.4-2.5GHz, as does 802.11ab wi-fi.

This nearness in frequency is what has lead to the concern about electrosensitivity. However, the power differential between a microwave oven (which would obviously do you a great deal of harm!) and a mobile or wi-fi is huge - this drives the school of thought that says it’s not possible to do anything to humans. It’s not dissimilar to the pro and anti homeopathy arguments.
 


schmunk

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Palacefinder General

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Some 4G networks in the UK operate at 2.6GHz (some of Vodafone for example). Microwave ovens typically operate at 2.45GHz, right in the unregulated band of 2.4-2.5GHz.

This nearness in frequency is what has lead to the concern about electrosensitivity. However, the power differential is huge - this drives the school of thought that says it’s not possible to do anything to humans. It’s not dissimilar to the pro and anti homeopathy arguments.

Impending 5G seems to be one of their main concerns.
 






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I know someone who cannot be near electricity as it makes them ill. They have no electricity and manage without.

It's certainly very real if you are sensitive to it, though obviously not everyone is.

Same reason why you might not be able to sleep well with lots of power cables running around/near the bed.
 


studio150

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You probably only suffer from mobile phone masts if you are after some compensation from the owners of the masts.
 




Goldstone1976

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Impending 5G seems to be one of their main concerns.

In the UK, the vast majority of 5G will be running at between 3.4 and 3.6GHz. This is a very long way from the frequencies used in microwave ovens, which is what they refer back to. Again, it’s the power they should be focusing on, not the frequency itself. Put enough power behind any frequency and it’ll damage you... the power being used in wireless comms is very small.
 


beorhthelm

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Impending 5G seems to be one of their main concerns.

its amusing how all the fears and impending health problems associated with mobiles, then 3G, then 4G are being regurgitated for 5G. and with each increase in frequency the range and potential for impact decreases. 5G will be blocked by a shirt, wont penetrate buildings, but there are people saying its used as a death ray or mind control by government. it actually going to be a pain in the arse, being sold something no one needs and can bearly use.
 








Barham's tash

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No idea about mobile signals but if taking the word at its truest then I do but not in a way you might expect.

Since I can remember if I walk past certain street lights in my current neighbourhood [and going back to when I lived in Brighton] they go out. When I move away from them they turn back on.

I also suffer a disproportionate amount of electrostatic discharge or build up and often unwittingly give people shocks or receive shocks from seemingly inert objects.
 


schmunk

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No idea about mobile signals but if taking the word at its truest then I do but not in a way you might expect.

Since I can remember if I walk past certain street lights in my current neighbourhood [and going back to when I lived in Brighton] they go out. When I move away from them they turn back on.

I also suffer a disproportionate amount of electrostatic discharge or build up and often unwittingly give people shocks or receive shocks from seemingly inert objects.

Please could you post a video of the lights (assuming you can find a camera tough enough to stay powered on in your presence...)?
 


Dick Swiveller

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I definitely have a 'thing' with early Bluetooth. I get a slight buzzing and odd headache with Nintendo Wii and old smartphones. No idea why and doesn't seem so much of a thing with modern phones but I guess it is a frequency thing.
 




Goldstone1976

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Since I can remember if I walk past certain street lights in my current neighbourhood [and going back to when I lived in Brighton] they go out. When I move away from them they turn back on.

:eek:

Never heard of that before.
 


Knocky's Nose

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May 7, 2017
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I lady on our little business park said she hard-wires her router and has turned off the wi-fi.... as the wi-fi waves seriously affect her health. She said since she did that she feels completely better, had no migraines and doesn't feel sick. :shrug:

I whipped out my mobile phone, turned wi-fi on, it did a scan, then found a total of 17 hotspots and wi-fi routers - all with almost maximum strength, all coming from the 15 or so little business units surrounding her. ???

Added to the fact that literally hundreds of mobile phone and radio waves whizz around at any given time, I call bullshit on the theory....
 


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