Ed Miliband - Brassneck?

[Superphil]

barrel, bottom, scraping?

What are the thoughts of NSC on this?

Labour leader Ed Miliband has offered Liberal Democrats the chance to take part in Labour's policy review.

He said many Lib Dems were "ashamed" by the direction of the coalition.

Echoing Tony Blair's quote after 9/11, Mr Miliband said the "kaleidoscope" of British politics had been shaken, but the pieces had not yet settled.

Lib Dem Tim Farron said Labour spent years "sucking up to Rupert Murdoch and George Bush - why would any progressive even give them a second glance?"

Mr Farron, the party's president-elect, added: "Liberal Democrats have started fixing Labour's economic mess, taking millions of people out of income tax and reforming British politics.

"Continuing that work is something far more attractive to Liberal Democrats than helping Ed Miliband's increasingly desperate attempts to work out what he actually stands for."

 

[Leekbrookgull]

Are you surprised ?

 

[Pavilionaire]

This is manna from heaven for the Lib Dems. Labour's selection of Ed, rather than David, looks like one of the biggest political gaffes of the past 30 years.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

All the leaders are beige. Politics is dull at the moment.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

If Brown and his cronies hadn't been so pig headed when it came to coalition talks then it would be Labour in a power share with the Lib Dems rather than the Tories.

Now they're showing how desperate they are to regain power and are probably regretting not having got rid of Brown during the talks.

 

[Stoo82]

Labour were NEVER going to get in any kind of power after that election result. The ONLY way was a colalition with the Tories and that was never going to happen.

If all the parties with MP got together to form a governeent they still would have been in a minortiy against the Tories.

I think.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Last week's student tuition fees vote showed that even on a contentious issue the present coalition has enough of a working majority to get legislation through.

A Lib/Lab coalition would have been a good fit but ultimately unworkable, partly because of the minute majority.

I feel Labour were scared of the Lib Dems. It's a bit hard to claim you're the party of the working man when it's the Lib Dems driving through a massive hike in the tax-free Personal Allowance - something Labour never had the balls or foresight to deliver.

 

[Biscuit]

Can't blame him for going after disillusioned LibDem MP's can you? There party has turned their back on some core values and upset alot of back benchers. Seems like a tactical move to claw back a bit more power/put the pressure on the infighting coalition.

 

[The Spanish]

All the leaders are beige. Politics is dull at the moment.

if riots in parliament square, this mad coalition, a f***ing lisping posh wanker making labour look more unelectable than at anytime since foot turned up at the cenotaph in his anorak, is boring, then you need to move to some mad south american banana republic or something as it hasnt been this interesting for 13 years.

 

[Stoo82]

Labour were NEVER going to get in any kind of power after that election result. The ONLY way was a colalition with the Tories and that was never going to happen.

If all the parties with MP got together to form a governeent they still would have been in a minortiy against the Tories.

I think.

WHat a bullshitter I turned out to be.

 

[Superphil]

put the pressure on the infighting coalition.

That's a good call, and let's face it, if there is one thing the Labour party has become excellent at, it's spin.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Labour need to learn that it was partly their penchant for spin that got them unelected. Rather than playing political games with the Lib Dems why not, say, try and come up with some decent policy alternatives? Absolute shambles in the Red Corner.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

that got them unelected.

Being a bit picky, I'm not sure you can be unelected as such !

It does provide an idea of how to make voting more appealing though. As well as a vote for a candidate you should have a vote that you can place against a candidate - could mean some parties having minus votes !!!!

 

[beorhthelm]

after his recent indecision on the student issue and general silence on anything since his victory (accepting he's been on maternity), this followup makes him look very weak.

 

[Simster]

Labour need to learn that it was partly their penchant for spin that got them unelected. Rather than playing political games with the Lib Dems why not, say, try and come up with some decent policy alternatives? Absolute shambles in the Red Corner.

Alright, Labour are flirting with the disaffected Lib Dems in the coalition, and it's all fairly cynical and ultimately pointless, but I'd hardly say that was reason to call them a shambles. You are right about the decent policy alternatives though. Then again, having no policies of their own hasn't done the Tories much harm has it? In fact, they're running the show while the wet Lib Dems are taking all the flak for it.

 

[Stoo82]

Alright, Labour are flirting with the disaffected Lib Dems in the coalition, and it's all fairly cynical and ultimately pointless, but I'd hardly say that was reason to call them a shambles. You are right about the decent policy alternatives though. Then again, having no policies of their own hasn't done the Tories much harm has it? In fact, they're running the show while the wet Lib Dems are taking all the flak for it.

The Tories dont have polices again? What the hell is everyone moaning for then?!

 

[Biscuit]

Alright, Labour are flirting with the disaffected Lib Dems in the coalition, and it's all fairly cynical and ultimately pointless, but I'd hardly say that was reason to call them a shambles. You are right about the decent policy alternatives though. Then again, having no policies of their own hasn't done the Tories much harm has it? In fact, they're running the show while the wet Lib Dems are taking all the flak for it.

Nail. Head.

 

[Simster]

The Tories dont have polices again? What the hell is everyone moaning for then?!

They didn't advertise many policies. They chose to sit tight and say nothing. Don't you remember?

 

[BLOCK F]

Can't blame him for going after disillusioned LibDem MP's can you? There party has turned their back on some core values and upset alot of back benchers. Seems like a tactical move to claw back a bit more power/put the pressure on the infighting coalition.

I am a Tory voter,but I don't know what some of the Libdem M.P.'s and their supporters want....with a coalition they have a chance to get some of their policies through,compromise on some and having to give way on others..... . It is that or another 90 years in the political wilderness.
On reflection,they have probably got so used to spouting forth policies knowing that they will never have to face the responsibility of actually putting them into practice,that now they have some power they can't cope with the reality of Government.
Back to growing beards and wearing sandals for some of them I think!

 

[e77]

An early play in the scramble for Lib Dem votes in the next election.