e cigs ban

[franks brother]

From this article you get the impression that the government would prefer smokers to continue smoking rather than switching to the e-cigs!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22870301

 

[dougdeep]

Inhaling chemicals can never be good for you, I've known people that use these things all of the time which isn't really the idea of them.

 

[scooter1]

The problem with e-cigs is that it now appears to have become ok to smoke these things wherever you are as you're not "actually smoking". A guy in my office walks round with one all day, and they're in pubs, restaurants etc. . I thought the idea of the smoking ban was to alienate smokers into giving up by making them stand in the cold and the rain, e-cigs just passes the problem on(without the aroma), whereas i thought they were designed to be an aid to giving up, not a long-term alternative

 

[Hillian1]

The Government has twigged that they are going to start losing 100's of millions in Tax duty if people switch to these things.

So they actually WANT people to smoke.

 

[dougdeep]

The Government has twigged that they are going to start losing 100's of millions in Tax duty if people switch to these things.

So they actually WANT people to smoke.

No.

 

[Superphil]

When does this ban start?





oh, there is no ban

 

[Silkster365]

No.

Yes

 

[Albion Dan]

The problem with e-cigs is that it now appears to have become ok to smoke these things wherever you are as you're not "actually smoking". A guy in my office walks round with one all day, and they're in pubs, restaurants etc. . I thought the idea of the smoking ban was to alienate smokers into giving up by making them stand in the cold and the rain, e-cigs just passes the problem on(without the aroma), whereas i thought they were designed to be an aid to giving up, not a long-term alternative

Huh? The idea of the smoking ban was to stop non smokers having to breathe in toxic smoke and the resulting risk of disease in public places. E cigs allow the smoker to smoke without inhaling all the poison in tobacco and the non smoker to remain safe.

 

[Hillian1]

No.

Yes.

 

[golddene]

Seems the female steward in west stand lower c section pre-empted this government report which must be the reason she told me that my e.cig was banned during the second half on the 13th, as if things were not bad enough !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ali jenkins]

They have been banned for a while at the Amex because people cant be grown up enough to go 2 hours without having a fag and were using the e-cigs as a cover up for actually smoking.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

So people can't smoke real cigarettes as they have been outlawed across the land and now people can't smoke fake cigarettes that harm no one around them but still these people take offense to it, er, ok then.

 

[Justice]

They have been banned for a while at the Amex because people cant be grown up enough to go 2 hours without having a fag and were using the e-cigs as a cover up for actually smoking.

Could say the same about drinking alcohol?

 

[Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!]

From this article you get the impression that the government would prefer smokers to continue smoking rather than switching to the e-cigs!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22870301

They're not being banned, just subjected to the same 'controls' as nicotine patches, chewing gums etc. In fact, having done some work on these, any regulation is better than the current situation where there's no evidence of product quality or safety and very little on efficacy, except some anecdotal stuff.

 

[Uncle C]

So people can't smoke real cigarettes as they have been outlawed across the land and now people can't smoke fake cigarettes that harm no one around them but still these people take offense to it, er, ok then.

Real cigarettes were once assumed to be safe. Dont you think thousands of lung cancer sufferers had wished the government had insisted on equal due dilligence.

 

[beorhthelm]

i see alot of people not reading the article, and those that have reading something that isnt writen. government agency and lobby groups dont want them freely available and are going to licence them as medicines in 3 years time - thats it, thats all there is to the story. that could be mean them being restircted to over 16 only, or could mean over the counter only at phamacists, no detail has really been made (and will certainly change in 3 years anyway).

 

[Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!]

i see alot of people not reading the article, and those that have reading something that isnt writen. government agency and lobby groups dont want them freely available and are going to licence them as medicines in 3 years time - thats it, thats all there is to the story. that could be mean them being restircted to over 16 only, or could mean over the counter only at phamacists, no detail has really been made (and will certainly change in 3 years anyway).

A bit more than this; there's no evidence of product quality/control (eg what's actually in it, dose, reproducibility etc) and particularly safety - the latter is the bigger issue although it is related to product quality in some respects - ie you really wouldn't want to ingest some of the impurities at all or at the levels found in some of these e-cigs.

 

[Albion Dan]

They have been banned for a while at the Amex because people cant be grown up enough to go 2 hours without having a fag and were using the e-cigs as a cover up for actually smoking.

Why shouldnt people be able to smoke a LEGAL product that does others around them no harm whatsoever at a football match? In fact EVERY SINGLE other away ground I smoked mine at allowed it except at The Amex.

 

[BigGully]

The problem with e-cigs is that it now appears to have become ok to smoke these things wherever you are as you're not "actually smoking". A guy in my office walks round with one all day, and they're in pubs, restaurants etc. . I thought the idea of the smoking ban was to alienate smokers into giving up by making them stand in the cold and the rain, e-cigs just passes the problem on(without the aroma), whereas i thought they were designed to be an aid to giving up, not a long-term alternative

Hear hear, stop my co workers chewing on their pens too !!!

You and me know what there up to, closet e-cig smokers, we require more sanctions as long as you and me make them !!

 

[El Presidente]

The Government has twigged that they are going to start losing 100's of millions in Tax duty if people switch to these things.

So they actually WANT people to smoke.

They don't.

A full economic analysis has been done to work out the cost/benefit to the Treasury of cigarettes, and the cost to the NHS, sickness pay and benefits, lost working hours due to illness still outweigh the tax revenues from fags plus the pensions saved by smokers dying younger than non-smokers.