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[Football] Dunk, Welbeck and Webster on 55 man England long list









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Huh? We're talking non-PL - that includes players based abroad, not just Championship players!
Yes, you're quite right. I only listed the domestic players.
 


Zeberdi

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Yes, you're quite right. I only listed the domestic players.
yes, I was only thinking of domestic players too when I made the PL comment initially (which was sorta tongue in cheek of course) 🙄

BOT - Would love Dunky to be in 26 but …
 






Easy 10

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Well i think Welbeck has been more than decent. just saying.
He can barely manage 1 game a week though. The notion he'd be of any use at a World Cup, where you could be playing every 3-4 days over the course of a month is for the birds. I'm glad we've got Welbz in our squad, but the fella is made of Weetabix. Hopefully he'll benefit from the break, keep ticking over with some light training, and be fresh and raring to go come Boxing Day.

It does illustrate the paucity of options we have outside of HK though. If he gets crocked, then we're already 'down to the bare bones'. We haven't had a decent go-to understudy for him since I can remember.
 








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Was literally just about to type that.
How can Dunk & Webster be behind Maguire/Mings in the pecking order truly baffles me... until I remember Gareth's palace bias
I still can’t actually believe people think he has some sort of bias towards player who play the club he made the leat amount of appearances in his career for 25 years ago. It’s complete nonsense.
 




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According to the website of that lot up the road, '“The club you start with is always special,” remarked Gareth Southgate of his development at Palace.' (apologies for the link, feel dirty just posting it). So either Soutgate has some kind of soft spot for them, or he was lying to make them feel better (or, I suppose, they might just have made it all up - something of a Palace speciality, that).
 




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According to the website of that lot up the road, '“The club you start with is always special,” remarked Gareth Southgate of his development at Palace.' (apologies for the link, feel dirty just posting it). So either Soutgate has some kind of soft spot for them, or he was lying to make them feel better (or, I suppose, they might just have made it all up - something of a Palace speciality, that).
A lot of noise about Eze potentially getting picked.

I'm waiting for the NSC servers to literally explode when he picks James Tomkins ahead of Dunk!
 




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Let's be clear. Lewis Dunk, for me, absolutely deserves to be in the 26 going to the World Cup. Danny Welbeck, for me, doesn't.

And yet I can't shake the nagging feeling that if one went (and I think neither going is the overwhelming favourite) it'd be Welbz.
 




peterward

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He can barely manage 1 game a week though. The notion he'd be of any use at a World Cup, where you could be playing every 3-4 days over the course of a month is for the birds. I'm glad we've got Welbz in our squad, but the fella is made of Weetabix. Hopefully he'll benefit from the break, keep ticking over with some light training, and be fresh and raring to go come Boxing Day.

It does illustrate the paucity of options we have outside of HK though. If he gets crocked, then we're already 'down to the bare bones'. We haven't had a decent go-to understudy for him since I can remember.
Big chat about this on 5live Monday night football and Michah Richards I thought was spot on. With the squads expanded to 26 why doesn't he take the extra striker. Rather than more defenders.

HK is def, probably Rashford too but on form why not take both Wilson and Toney. Both got good pens in them, both offer something different, why not an extra attacker for the reasons you highlight? Sterling is in shite form too.

From about 27mins. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001dql5
 


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Big chat about this on 5live Monday night football and Michah Richards I thought was spot on. With the squads expanded to 26 why doesn't he take the extra striker. Rather than more defenders.

HK is def, probably Rashford too but on form why not take both Wilson and Toney. Both got good pens in them, both offer something different, why not an extra attacker for the reasons you highlight? Sterling is in shite form too.

From about 27mins. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001dql5
Wilson has been injury prone so not sure he will take the intensity unless you take him as a penalty taker and bring him on for last few mins of a drawer.
 




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Wilson has been injury prone so not sure he will take the intensity unless you take him as a penalty taker and bring him on for last few mins of a drawer.
There's zero logic in taking Wilson just for that (ahead of Toney). Toney is comfortably the best penalty taker available to England right now - even over Kane.
 




Dave the OAP

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Personally I would have added solly to the squad.

give him more experience playing with big players for when he goes to arsenal in January.
 


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There's zero logic in taking Wilson just for that (ahead of Toney). Toney is comfortably the best penalty taker available to England right now - even over Kane.

Not sure about that. Toney has done it in the Championship and a few times in the PL, but he has never had to step up for England, as Kane has. The World Cup is a hell of a place to find out if he has the minerals.

If I had to pick between Toney and Kane to take a pen in a shootout, perhaps the winning one, I know who I'm going for.
 


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