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[News] Dr Michael Mosley - RIP 09/06/2024



Uncle Spielberg

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Turned right instead of left at pedi to symi town
 




Flounce

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Very sad


I am guessing he got heat stroke which would have totally confused him in addition to other problems. All of this he would have been aware of…before it happened but not afterwards :down:

One of my grandmothers died from sunstroke in India at 26. My mother was obsessional about sun protection all her life because of it.

 


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The most curious thing..


The Fits

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Jun 29, 2020
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Really sad.
I've done this myself. I visit a Mediterranean island often. I know the landscape and my own body. Went for a short walk peak sun, was enjoying myself so decided to walk to a further swimming point. No phone, no water, little shade. Very quickly felt very, very weak. Disoriented. Lacking any mental capacity.
Somehow made it, realising I couldn't really turn back as my only chance of shade and liquid was my intended destination.
I was fit and in my thirties.
Don't overestimate your own body and don't underestimate the power of the elements.
RIP.
 






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Turned right instead of left at pedi to symi town
Unlikely - if you turn right you follow the bay round to Agia Marina, where he was found. Symi town is directly over the hills on a road, and you would immediately see the difference, so I doubt Symi town was his intended destination. We were there in early June 1992 and did the Symi-Pedi walk in both directions - it’s not difficult.

Why is it assumed he had no water? If he left his wife at Agios Nikolaos beach, who’s to say he didn’t buy some on his way through Pedi?

RIP MM
 


essbee1

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Really sad.
I've done this myself. I visit a Mediterranean island often. I know the landscape and my own body. Went for a short walk peak sun, was enjoying myself so decided to walk to a further swimming point. No phone, no water, little shade. Very quickly felt very, very weak. Disoriented. Lacking any mental capacity.
Somehow made it, realising I couldn't really turn back as my only chance of shade and liquid was my intended destination.
I was fit and in my thirties.
Don't overestimate your own body and don't underestimate the power of the elements.
RIP.
Indeed. Very sad. I got lost in Croatia near to a beach once. It's a very, very scary feeling when you lose your way with no sign of life
in the blistering heat.
 






herecomesaregular

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Having solo walked many 3-5 day treks around Australia and NZ sometimes seeing noone (partly the point) it really is easy to get disorientated in extreme (for you) weather conditions in foreign lands. He's been v unlucky, perhaps slightly foolish (and I say that having been so many times myself) and he's not got away with it, like you usually normally would. There by the grace of god etc. V saddened by this news as I liked his shows and he seemed like a lovely bloke. Rip.
 


Uncle Spielberg

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Unlikely - if you turn right you follow the bay round to Agia Marina, where he was found. Symi town is directly over the hills on a road, and you would immediately see the difference, so I doubt Symi town was his intended destination. We were there in early June 1992 and did the Symi-Pedi walk in both directions - it’s not difficult.

Why is it assumed he had no water? If he left his wife at Agios Nikolaos beach, who’s to say he didn’t buy some on his way through Pedi?

RIP MM
It would have been reported surely ? Anyway me second guessing is disrespectul so I will just say RIP, he inspired many people
 


Nigella's Cream Pie

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Unlikely - if you turn right you follow the bay round to Agia Marina, where he was found. Symi town is directly over the hills on a road, and you would immediately see the difference, so I doubt Symi town was his intended destination. We were there in early June 1992 and did the Symi-Pedi walk in both directions - it’s not difficult.

Why is it assumed he had no water? If he left his wife at Agios Nikolaos beach, who’s to say he didn’t buy some on his way through Pedi?

RIP MM
I can't see any path alongside the bay on Google Maps. My guess is he climbed up high, well away from the water, then lost his footing descending the steep slope to the marina. He then tumbled into the fence-topped wall which protects the marina from rockfall.
 






AlbionBro

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Very sad, I hope lessons will be learned by millions of people after this tragic situation. Never take any risks in extreme temperatures. RIP
 


vegster

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Having solo walked many 3-5 day treks around Australia and NZ sometimes seeing noone (partly the point) it really is easy to get disorientated in extreme (for you) weather conditions in foreign lands. He's been v unlucky, perhaps slightly foolish (and I say that having been so many times myself) and he's not got away with it, like you usually normally would. There by the grace of god etc. V saddened by this news as I liked his shows and he seemed like a lovely bloke. Rip.
Pretty much this... a series of small mistakes combined with some bad luck. Been on several fishing holidays in Cornwall and have clambered some distances over rocks and heights to get to fishing spots while carrying a lot of gear. If I had fallen and injured myself while alone I probably would have been a goner as mobile signals are poor to say the least.
 




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I can't see any path alongside the bay on Google Maps. My guess is he climbed up high, well away from the water, then lost his footing descending the steep slope to the marina. He then tumbled into the fence-topped wall which protects the marina from rockfall.
There’s quite a low path all the way to Agia Marina, although not much more than a track after you leave Pedi. You’d be aware that you were heading around the bay, rather than over the hills to Symi town. But yes, i suspect he fell at some point,
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dangull

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Also unlucky, he was in almost shouting range of people on the other side of the fence and less than 100 metres from the sea to cool off.
But nobody will know his condition at the time.
 




PascalGroß Tips

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There’s quite a low path all the way to Agia Marina, although not much more than a track after you leave Pedi. You’d be aware that you were heading around the bay, rather than over the hills to Symi town. But yes, i suspect he fell at some point,
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Someone I know has been to Symi many times ... this is what they sent me yesterday evening. As she says at the end - it's just speculation - but does kind of make sense.

"We have walked the path between St Nick’s beach and Pedi many times - it is rocky in places but it’s not difficult and as far as we are concerned there is no way you would end up in the sea if you slipped/fell/passed out etc. It takes about 15-20 minutes to walk it and anyone who had got into trouble would have been discovered very quickly so we couldn’t understand why they concentrated the search there for as long as they did.
Once the cctv video of him walking past Blue Corner cafe emerged and then the photos of him walking past the Marina we immediately thought that he was trying to walk round that headland or over the top to Yialos, the main port where he was staying. From a distance the terrain doesn’t look that different to the walk he’d just done and you can make out a faint path leading upwards but it is much more difficult - we’ve never done it and have never been tempted to.

All I can think is that he arrived at Pedi at around 13.50, saw the next bus to Yialos didn’t depart until 14.30 and, based on the walk he’d just done, thought continuing round the next headland would get him back to Yialos more quickly. Of course that is just speculation on my part but if that was the case, he sadly made a terrible error".
 




raymondo

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If I've understood this correctly, what an incredible shame that the CCTV that captured his final steps down to that wall wasn't reviewed much earlier 😕
BBC News - Dr Michael Mosley: Post-mortem finds presenter died of natural causes, police say - BBC News
 




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