Does anyone know the laws of the game?

[Lord Bracknell]

Here's a poser.

Two players are involved - an attacker and a defender.

The attacker has the ball at his feet, inside the penalty area. He is very close to the back line, but outside the six yard box. He nutmegs the defender and then attempts to run past him, to catch up with the ball, but chooses to pass the defender by leaving the field of play. The defender sticks out his foot and trips the attacker up, but the trip takes place off the playing area. There are no other defenders between this incident and the goal and the attacker would have regained control of the ball if he hadn't been tripped up.

Has the defender committed a foul? Should a penalty be awarded? Should the defender be sent off?

 

[cheeseroll]

no free kick but depending on the severity of the challenge the defender could be booked or even sent off.
this is just an opinion though.

 

[perth seagull]

no free kick but depending on the severity of the challenge the defender could be booked or even sent off.
this is just an opinion though.

Yes, if the challenge occurred outside of the area I didn't think that it would have any effect on the run of play, but if it was a bad challenge then a card could be shown.

 

[Lord Cornwallis]

Don't think the ref would go so far as cautioning the attacker for leaving the field without permission, but I supose technically he could. Again based on the challange of the defender, a card could be shown. Players have been shown cards before, in the tunnel for example. How to restart? haven't a clue, my guess would be a drop ball.

 

[Timbo]

Penalty and a red card. It's all to do with the ball still being in play and under the control of the attacker. If as you say he would have picked up the ball again it is technically still under his control.

 

[Everest]

Depends if we're attacking or defending.

 

[Race]

Tank thinks it would have been a penalty, and depending on whether it was a goal scoring opportunity or not then probably defender should get sent off or a yellow. Technically the attacker has left field of play. Another scenario is if the attacker is off THE field of play when ball is played forward and comes back on and receives the ball is he off side because technically hes no on the pitch when the ball was played?

I no understand

 

[dougdeep]

Yes,yes he is.

 

[Theatre of Trees]

Eerily enough something similar to this happened at Preston yesterday. Defender was brought down over the touchline but the ball was still in play and a penalty was given.

Saw it on Sky Sports News last night.

 

[ac gull]

Saw it as well

Looked a very harsh penalty to me

 

[Race]

bloody refs! do my head in

 

[trueblue]

Tank thinks it would have been a penalty, and depending on whether it was a goal scoring opportunity or not then probably defender should get sent off or a yellow. Technically the attacker has left field of play. Another scenario is if the attacker is off THE field of play when ball is played forward and comes back on and receives the ball is he off side because technically hes no on the pitch when the ball was played?

I no understand

On the offside question.... i think the answer is "no". Someone did this in a Premiership game within the past couple of seasons... I think it was Thierry Henry. However, instead of offside, the ref could use the law about re-entering the field of play without permission...

Now what's the real law about hiding behind the post, then mugging the keeper like George Parris did at The Goldstone

 

[Beach Hut]

Wasn't that Crespo against Arsenal a few seasons ago ?

 

[trueblue]

That's the one.

Crespo... Henry.... all these overpaid Premiership prima donnas look the same to me

 

[pasty]

Here's a poser.

Two players are involved - an attacker and a defender.

The attacker has the ball at his feet, inside the penalty area. He is very close to the back line, but outside the six yard box. He nutmegs the defender and then attempts to run past him, to catch up with the ball, but chooses to pass the defender by leaving the field of play. The defender sticks out his foot and trips the attacker up, but the trip takes place off the playing area. There are no other defenders between this incident and the goal and the attacker would have regained control of the ball if he hadn't been tripped up.

Has the defender committed a foul? Should a penalty be awarded? Should the defender be sent off?

Now this really depends on where the incident took place, and the players involved. If the attacking player was wearing a red shirt at Old Trafford for instance, a new rule would instantly be brought in to play and a goal awarded immediately. The defender would not only be red carded, but charged by the Manchester constabulary for assault, as the offence took place off the field of play.

However, if the attacking player had been wearing any other coloured shirt at Old Trafford he would have been sent off by virtue of two yellow card offences at the same time - ie leaving the field of play, and ungentlemanly conduct for nutmegging a United defender. He would also then be charged by the local Manchester constabulary under a little known local by-law, whereby nutmegging local defenders and making them look stupid is an heinous offence and punishable by public flogging.

 

[Everest]

If the attacker was over the line but in the goal. then that would be offside as that is classed as part of the field of play.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

The attacker COULD get sent off for two bookings.

One for leaving the field of play without permission and one for entering the field of play without permission.

Only a twat would do that though.

 

[pasty]

The attacker COULD get sent off for two bookings.

One for leaving the field of play without permission and one for entering the field of play without permission.

Only a twat would do that though.

You mean like this bloke?

** offensive picture alert **

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Yes. Just like him.

I have had a quick look in my refs handbook and from what I can gather no free kick of penlty would be awarded because it happened off the pitch but as someone said above, the guilty player could be booked or sent off depending on the severity of the incident in the same way a player can be sent off for punching someone in the tunnel.

 

[Ccider]

The attacker COULD get sent off for two bookings.

One for leaving the field of play without permission and one for entering the field of play without permission.

Only a twat would do that though.

What exactly is the field of play?

You're not telling me that every time a player goes to take a throw-in he "technically" should ask permission to leave and re-enter the "field of play"? That would be crazy...