Doctors on strike

[n1 gull]

Dr Simon Sparrow wouldn't strike, now he was a proper doctor (ffs google it if you're confused)

 

[BLOCK F]

Do me a favour, they received a massive, over double in some cases, pay increase under the new contracts handed out by Labour giving most GP's a salary in excess of £120 000. They were no longer expected to work "out of hours" so most surgeries resort to an emergency service during this time. The GP's now hardly ever make a diagnoses but refer anything slightly suspect to a consultant. They basically poke and prod their patients for 8 hours a day, at most, give out prescriptions to many who don't need them, refer any that may be ill and take home a handsome salary and a golden pension. GP's under pressure, my arse.

Have to agree with much of this.G.P.'s have it pretty cushy these days ,thanks to the almighty negotiating cock-up by the previous Government.Even after proposals to alter their pensions,they, like many public sector workers, have a deal many of those in the private sector can only dream of.
My father,long retired,was a G.P. for many years and cannot believe what has happened to the quality of service many receive from their local practice!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

So because Jimmy Carr is fiddling his tax, we're not allowed to summise that Doctors of all people are prime candidates for austerity?

Of course not. I just think that today, in my view, Jimmy Carr is a bigger demon than my doctor.

 

[Cian]

So much for the Hippocratic Oath!!!

Most doctors don't take that anymore. No Irish-qualified doctor has for maybe 40 years anyway.

 

[Simster]

Of course not. I just think that today, in my view, Jimmy Carr is a bigger demon than my doctor.

Well yes, but seeing as the Carr thread has 120 posts and this one has 24, what makes you think that isn't the case already?

It's just that seems to me, and a fair few others, that doctors have had it bloody easy and are ripe for being reigned in a bit. I appreciate they are being asked to work for longer and for a little less, but that pension is still £68,000 a year. With no mortgage to pay, that is a truck load of money.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Of course not. I just think that today, in my view, Jimmy Carr is a bigger demon than my doctor.

Most of us can disinguish the two.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

It's just that seems to me, and a fair few others, that doctors have had it bloody easy and are ripe for being reigned in a bit. I appreciate they are being asked to work for longer and for a little less, but that pension is still £68,000 a year. With no mortgage to pay, that is a truck load of money.

And try getting a service for an elderly relative at 2am in the morning. The country is paying a lot of money for what is a piss-poor out of hours service.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Well yes, but seeing as the Carr thread has 120 posts and this one has 24, what makes you think that isn't the case already?

It's just that seems to me, and a fair few others, that doctors have had it bloody easy and are ripe for being reigned in a bit. I appreciate they are being asked to work for longer and for a little less, but that pension is still £68,000 a year. With no mortgage to pay, that is a truck load of money.

Just to rub some more salt - that £68k per year is what doctors starting work in 3 years time will get. I read the other day that the current standard ( i.e. for those retiring now ) is £100k per year plus £300k lump sum. I'm sorry but no sympathy for them from this poster.

 

[DumLum]

I agree with the op.

Go back to work you greedy fools!

 

[drew]

Last night I drove from Swindon to take my 82 year old mother for an appointment at Sussex County, ( she broke her leg 6 weeks ago),
I have had to take a day off work .....I will be really pissed off if when I get to the hospital they refuse to see her......

she has NOT been informed the appointment has been changed..

Update later...

Presumably, being aware of the action being taken, you took the prudent step of ringing the hospital yesterday to double check?


As far as I'm aware, the doctors aren't on strike and should be at work. They are taking industrial action, in effect a go slow.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Most of us can disinguish the two.

One would sincerely hope so.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Well yes, but seeing as the Carr thread has 120 posts and this one has 24, what makes you think that isn't the case already?

I have no idea, the Jimmy Carr thread has been running longer and I have not totted up how many unique posters there are on his or this thread. But that is not the point is it? I'm expressing my view, which is that my wrath is heading towards bum-chin. Or read another way, I'm fed up with the demonisation of public sector workers which the Tories have engendered and Docs are not in my sights. This is quite a non-issue you're picking up on here.

 

[repomanse25]

i work in the nhs and this morning most doctors in my area had cancelled the strike due to public outrage

 

[trueblue]

go back to work you morons!

The last thing you could call a Doctor is a moron. Yes, they make good money but they train for years and, if they're good, keep on training forever. And they work bloody hard for the large majority of that time. And they save people's lives - many of whom ARE morons.

Why not save your anger for those whose money really does outstrip their talent - the ridiculously overpaid Chief Executives of large corporations who've taken no personal financial risk and yet reap the rewards traditionally only available to entrepreneurs. Generally, after making a hash of it, they call on their mates for another job of a similar ill and the cycle starts all over again...

 

[trueblue]

Last night I drove from Swindon to take my 82 year old mother for an appointment at Sussex County, ( she broke her leg 6 weeks ago),
I have had to take a day off work .....I will be really pissed off if when I get to the hospital they refuse to see her......

she has NOT been informed the appointment has been changed..

Update later...

That would be annoying. But if you've not been warned in advance, maybe it's better to blame the army of administrators that seem to breed out of control within the NHS, rather than the wo/man who's making your Mum better.

 

[Mileoakman]

Just to rub some more salt - that £68k per year is what doctors starting work in 3 years time will get. I read the other day that the current standard ( i.e. for those retiring now ) is £100k per year plus £300k lump sum. I'm sorry but no sympathy for them from this poster.

Well you read wrong! Its a pension of around £48k at the moment and a lump sum of about £100k, not bad I agree but nowhere near the sums being spouted on here.

Incidently the current pension scheme for NHS staff currently is in surplus by around £2 billion per year, before any further contribution increases are included. So what happens to it, well the Government snaffles it to pay towards general expenditure. Hardly seems fair.

 

[Simster]

Well you read wrong! Its a pension of around £48k at the moment and a lump sum of about £100k, not bad I agree but nowhere near the sums being spouted on here.

Incidently the current pension scheme for NHS staff currently is in surplus by around £2 billion per year, before any further contribution increases are included. So what happens to it, well the Government snaffles it to pay towards general expenditure. Hardly seems fair.

Yes, but they also get to retire at 60 if they choose, something else that hasn't been mentioned.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Well you read wrong! Its a pension of around £48k at the moment and a lump sum of about £100k, not bad I agree but nowhere near the sums being spouted on here.

So doctors are striking because they will have to pay a little more and work longer but in return they will get nearly 50% more per year That seems bizarre.

 

[GreersElbow]

Couldn't the government just out-source and use private doctors, I thought they did that in other sectors....

 

[trueblue]

Couldn't the government just out-source and use private doctors, I thought they did that in other sectors....

Are you serious?