[Albion] Do Albion Bonuses Get Paid Out On Possession Stats?

[Justice]

A football forum where many people dont understand football. Who would have thought it!

Ah so the balls not meant to go in the oppositions goal? Glad you’ve put us all to rights

 

[Easy 10]

There are 2 primary factors for me.

1. We don't have a clinical striker (done to death on here, but its a fact).
2. (And this is the biggee) - our buildup is so slow and ponderous, the opposition generally have about 2-3 years to get into position to defend. Meaning we usually have to do something truly special to unlock them and create an opportunity.

We had SO much possession in their half yesterday, but worked their keeper what, twice ? We are very easy to defend against, everyone knows it.

Watching our build-up is like bunging a lasagne in the microwave. You watch it go round and round and round until eventually the "ding" goes off (lose possession), then you take it out and realise its basically shite.

 

[Questions]

While that is understandable, what I fail to understand is why some people think having less possession, have the defenders make near impossible passes because "otherwise people might get impatient" and generally go back to some kind of medieval style of football would automatically produce better results.

No you are missing my point totally. I’m saying it’s frustrating that’s all……… not that we should abandon our whole philosophy. I have all the patience in the world if I think there might be a favourable outcome at the end … at the moment we are not good enough in that area. That’s it.

 

[Questions]

There are 2 primary factors for me.

1. We don't have a clinical striker (done to death on here, but its a fact).
2. (And this is the biggee) - our buildup is so slow and ponderous, the opposition generally have about 2-3 years to get into position to defend. Meaning we usually have to do something truly special to unlock them and create an opportunity.

We had SO much possession in their half yesterday, but worked their keeper what, twice ? We are very easy to defend against, everyone knows it.

Watching our build-up is like bunging a lasagne in the microwave. You watch it go round and round and round until eventually the "ding" goes off (lose possession), then you take it out and realise its basically shite.

That was a good post till the analogy. Pasta analogies are known to be quite weak.

 

[Weststander]

There are 2 primary factors for me.

1. We don't have a clinical striker (done to death on here, but its a fact).
2. (And this is the biggee) - our buildup is so slow and ponderous, the opposition generally have about 2-3 years to get into position to defend. Meaning we usually have to do something truly special to unlock them and create an opportunity.

We had SO much possession in their half yesterday, but worked their keeper what, twice ? We are very easy to defend against, everyone knows it.

Watching our build-up is like bunging a lasagne in the microwave. You watch it go round and round and round until eventually the "ding" goes off (lose possession), then you take it out and realise its basically shite.

The manager and players have tunnel vision for "control of the ball". "Controlled the game" crops up repeatedly in post match interviews.

In the savvy EPL I've always had the impression that a stack of very astute coaches have no issue at all in being on the wrong end of that facet.

They simply defend deep in numbers, patiently waiting for the opportunity to spring the counter attack trap.

Over the 5 seasons, so often the mugs on the receiving end of that and hey presto another loss. Redmond, Watkins, Ryan Fraser, Dwight O'Neil, Demarai Gray, even Benteke ffs.

 

[vegster]

That was a good post till the analogy. Pasta analogies are known to be quite weak.

You gotta da recipe for Pasta Anologies?

 

[albionalex]

While that is understandable, what I fail to understand is why some people think having less possession, have the defenders make near impossible passes because "otherwise people might get impatient" and generally go back to some kind of medieval style of football would automatically produce better results.

I don't think anyone wants to back to some kind of medieval football where the defenders just hoof it upfield aimlessly. I think we would just be happy to give up some possession and be a bit more direct at times.

 

[Grassman]

That was a good post till the analogy. Pasta analogies are known to be quite weak.

Why, are they too con-fusilli-ing?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

That was a good post till the analogy. Pasta analogies are known to be quite weak.

This. Pasta performance is not indicative of future results

 

[Justice]

The manager and players have tunnel vision for "control of the ball". "Controlled the game" crops up repeatedly in post match interviews.

In the savvy EPL I've always had the impression that a stack of very astute coaches have no issue at all in being on the wrong end of that facet.

They simply defend deep in numbers, patiently waiting for the opportunity to spring the counter attack trap.

Over the 5 seasons, so often the mugs on the receiving end of that and hey presto another loss. Redmond, Watkins, Ryan Fraser, Dwight O'Neil, Demarai Gray, even Benteke ffs.

We constantly turn over possession in the final third to the point of ridiculous. Our play is so slow it’s never three against two on a break it’s us trying to get past eight players.

On the odd occasion Lamptey and Cucurella break and put in sublime balls there is never anyone there to tap the ball home. You don’t have to be a £50m super striker to gamble on a ball coming in from the flank and have a tap in on the back post. Surely Potter says see when Lamps and Cucu break gamble on the cross coming in
and stop being so f&cking static.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

We constantly turn over possession in the final third to the point of ridiculous. Our play is so slow it’s never three against two on a break it’s us trying to get past eight players.

On the odd occasion Lamptey and Cucurella break and put in sublime balls there is never anyone there to tap the ball home. You don’t have to be a £50m super striker to gamble on a ball coming in from the flank and have a tap in on the back post. Surely Potter says see when Lamps and Cucu break gamble on the cross coming in
and stop being so f&cking static.

Connolly must offer an option in that direction shirley, being about the zippiest of our forwards. Pace on the flanks matched by pace in the middle

 

[Robinjakarta]

Fair play to the players tho, they're only following gormless benny orders

Better than following gormless benny posts.

 

[Easy 10]

Connolly must offer an option in that direction shirley, being about the zippiest of our forwards. Pace on the flanks matched by pace in the middle

If the answer is Connolly, I don't want to know the question.

 

[Justice]

Connolly must offer an option in that direction shirley, being about the zippiest of our forwards. Pace on the flanks matched by pace in the middle

Maupay Connolly with Trossard in behind, Lamptey & Cucurella on the flanks is surely our best option in attack. I’m mixed about Connolly I wonder if Potter has done more damage than good with him. I liked Connolly/Maupay upfront in the early Potter games and then it just seemed to end for Connolly.

 

[Guinness Boy]

If the answer is Connolly, I don't want to know the question.

It's "since lockdown, which Premier League footballer has done the most to promote Love Island?".

Oh, wait, you said you DIDN'T want to know.

 

[Fignon's Ponytail]

That Dicking-Around-At-The-Back thing has been here as long as Potter's been here. Not fooling anyone. Not helping us one one little bit. Fair play to the players tho, they're only following gormless benny orders

And before that...its the reason I gave up my ST when Hughton was in charge. The last straw was when I fell asleep during a game. I realised at that point that sideways football wasn't for me.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

If the answer is Connolly, I don't want to know the question.

I don't think he's actually been tried alongside Lamptey and Cucurella yet has he? Pace for pace. Maybe something might click

 

[Easy 10]

I don't think he's actually been tried alongside Lamptey and Cucurella yet has he? Pace for pace. Maybe something might click

Probably his miniscus.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Probably his miniscus.

It's a simple tap-in for the boy [MENTION=70]Easy 10[/MENTION]

 

[Badger Boy]

I am not a fan of this ponderous, uninteresting and monotonous manager. I hope this season will be his last and we'll get someone in who has more interest in entertainment rather than boring out a narrow win or boring out a draw. We have good attacking players, but we have an inadequate manager when it comes to playing attacking football.

No real surprise that a boring man is leading a boring team in boring match after boring match.