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Cherries latest to fall for fantasy league fallacy
Bournemouth have tumbled into crisis again but other clubs are beginning to accept the reality after an era of boom and bust
David ConnMarch 12, 2008 1:25 AM
With three clubs through, gloriously, to the FA Cup semi-finals and two, dismally, in administration, these are contradictory times for the Football League. Fans are flocking to support the clubs in greater numbers than at any time since the 1960s, yet for some, this remains far from a golden era.

In the Championship, West Bromwich Albion are among a group of notably well-run clubs which have profited from spells in the Premier League, while the recent takeovers of Coventry City and Ipswich Town were distress sales of clubs struggling to pay their debts. At Cardiff City, euphoria at beating Middlesbrough in last Sunday's FA Cup quarter-final has provided light relief from the forthcoming court battle over £24m of loans hanging over the club Peter Ridsdale chairs. Leeds United, Ridsdale's former club, are disputing the League's 15-point penalty imposed for failing to agree a settlement with 75% of creditors after Ken Bates put Leeds into administration last year. Bournemouth and Luton Town are currently in administration and nobody will be surprised if at least two other clubs join them before March is over.

While all these collapses have their own individual tales, all the insolvencies share shades of Ridsdale's classic explanation when the party ended at Leeds: "We lived the dream." Gerald Krasner, the insolvency accountant who succeeded Ridsdale as Leeds' chairman and inherited the £100m debts, is now Bournemouth's administrator.

"No club is in as much debt as Leeds," he reflects, "but they all spent money on players which they did not have, and they did not think about what would happen if the plans did not work out."

Bournemouth's current insolvency, with debts of around £4m including £700,000 in unpaid tax and VAT and approximately £800,000 owed to the usual long list of creditors likely to receive very little, makes a grim spectacle. The Cherries were hailed as a new supporter-owned dawn for lower-division clubs back in 1997 when the club was brought out of a £5m receivership. The fans had raised £150,000 towards settling the debts, and the money was put into a trust fund which held 51% of the club's voting rights.

After 2000, when Supporters Direct was formed to promote fan ownership, the Bournemouth model was modified so that a democratic supporters' trust took over the club's golden share. But years of commitment and voluntary effort by fans nationwide has delivered two tough lessons: first, that widespread supporter ownership of senior clubs along the lines of Barcelona's glorious tradition is not realistically possible, given the cost of buying even small clubs. Second, involvement by fans does not in itself provide a solution to clubs' innate tendency to overspend chasing the game's prizes. Supporters Direct itself has moved towards promoting good governance and financial management at clubs, alongside increased supporter involvement.

Some clubs are habitually well run, but the Football League is a mosaic of circumstances, with the temptation to overspend almost written into its structure. Clubs relegated from the Premier League receive millions of pounds in "parachute" payments for two seasons, a huge advantage over the others clamouring for promotion. Some senior clubs, like Sheffield Wednesday, remain saddled with long-standing debts; several, including Crystal Palace, Sheffield United and now Queens Park Rangers have wealthy owners prepared to underwrite ambition. Hull City, Swansea City and Doncaster Rovers were given new leases of life by local councils building new stadiums for them; others have moderately well-off backers, while many do their best to balance the books and still try to succeed in a lethally competitive environment.

The League itself points to the 10-point penalty for clubs which cut their debts by going into administration, wage limits in League One and Two, and the requirement that clubs publish agents' fees as evidence of significant reforms, allied to increased sponsorship and broadcasting deals. John Nagle, a Football League spokesman, said: "It is disappointing that two clubs have gone into administration this season but ultimately clubs are responsible for running their own financial affairs."

At Bournemouth, a cautionary tale, it did not take long after rebirth for the club to be in the mire again. The directors ran out of money while building a new stadium at their Dean Court home, which still has only three sides completed, and they then sold the ground itself to pay the debts. The club's most recent accounts, for the year to May 31 2005, are a horror story, itemising a club again owing £5m and struggling to survive. It owed £1.45m to a company connected to the club's president, Stanley Cohen; other directors had lent £515,000 plus £547,000 in a separate loan scheme; the club had borrowed £239,963 from bridging loan specialists Bristol & West Investments at 15.5% interest; owed £650,000 to Lloyds Bank and £250,000 to the council.

Supporters marched in protest against a plan to sell the ground floated by a previous chairman, Tony Swaisland; a new chairman, Peter Philips, launched a loan scheme and issued new shares, but could not stem the crisis and, in December 2005, Bournemouth did sell its ground to a London-based company, Structadene. Owned by David Pearl, who appeared as a sentimental-hearted property man on last year's Channel 4 show The Secret Millionaire, Structadene paid £3.5m for Dean Court. Bournemouth pay rent to play there, beginning in 2005 at £300,000 per year.

The £3.5m the club received went straight out, to pay off Cohen, Bristol & West, Swaisland, Lloyds Bank and the sponsors, Fitness First. That saved on future interest payments but left the club still in debt. Quite what has happened since is not publicly known because the directors have failed to file accounts which were due by March 31 last year.

Last February two businessmen, Jeff Mostyn and Steve Sly, offered to invest £750,000 in new shares into the club - the supporters' trust is unhappy because it has since emerged that the money actually went in as a loan. Kevin Bond was appointed the club's manager after he was sacked by Newcastle following the BBC's Panorama football programme, but even before administration, his team was battling for League One survival. It was also struggling to balance the books; last November Mostyn lent a further £110,000, then in February this year, the directors finally filed for administration and appointed Krasner. Barely two years after selling the ground as a last resort, Bournemouth are again insolvent. Creditors who dealt with the club will lose heavily, and the 10-point penalty has left the club adrift in the relegation zone.

Krasner expects to find a buyer for the club; he believes that Bournemouth, a club with a long history punctuated by some memorable highlights, can have a future, if run responsibly. "They'll have to realise they're never likely to be in the Premier League," he cautions, "try to make money in the 342 days in the year when there is no home game, and not spend money they haven't got."

In other words: reach for the stars, without living the dream.

Bother at Rotherham

The club most obviously in danger of following Bournemouth into administration is League Two's Rotherham United, which is in financial difficulties and no longer owns its ground. In 2005 the former chairman Ken Booth took ownership of Millmoor in return for writing off £3m he had paid in to run the club, which enjoyed four seasons at Championship level.

A supporters' trust briefly took over, then the club was sold to the local businessmen Dennis Coleman and Dino Maccio. They could not save it and in May 2006 the club cut its £3.7m debts with a company voluntary arrangement. That meant starting last season with a 10-point deduction, and the Millers were ultimately relegated from League One by 13 points. Last month the club announced an "intention to appoint an administrator," a formal process providing short breathing space from declaring insolvency again, while Coleman and Maccio try desperately to attract new investment.

This season has seen the side battling for promotion from League Two and they are still well placed to get into the play-offs. But after their surprise 1-0 defeat against Acrington Stanley earlier this month the manager, Mark Robins complained that his side had put in a "shocking performance, the worst I have seen for a long time", but then admitted: "I am angry, absolutely livid and that is not my team. We can't bring anyone else in due to the financial difficulties and we want players fighting for places."

david.conn@guardian.co.uk
 




Dandyman

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Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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As I watched last night's sport on South Today I thought to myself what a bloody amazing job the board have done to have kept us away from the shenanigans that have gone on at Bournemouth and Southampton over the last few years.

I have been a sometime critic of DK but totally accept that I was wrong to ever doubt now.
 


Fourteenth Eye

Face for Radio
Jul 9, 2004
7,941
Brighton
This is happeng more & more & the blame lies firmly at the door of the premier league.

It should be abolished & handed back to the football league. The rich clubs have got richer and the money is not filtering through to the lower leagues.

They dont have 2 governing bodies in any other country so why should England be any different???
 


BigGully

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Sep 8, 2006
7,139
As I watched last night's sport on South Today I thought to myself what a bloody amazing job the board have done to have kept us away from the shenanigans that have gone on at Bournemouth and Southampton over the last few years.

I have been a sometime critic of DK but totally accept that I was wrong to ever doubt now.

I also had my say about DK especially his perceived involvement in contract negotiations and player signings.

But I am excited as anyone now that Falmer seems a real project that is ready to deliver a first class stadium.

The Board have worked wonders no doubt, but I got to say that the reason we havent gone the way of the Cherries, isnt that we havent spent or that somehow DK has been so very prudent, I would expect that our spending might of been equivalent to Bournemouth and others.

I am guessing we have stayed alive due to, yes good management, but also to some very generous donations and 'investment' by some very wealthy men.
 






Knotty

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Feb 5, 2004
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Canterbury
I also had my say about DK especially his perceived involvement in contract negotiations and player signings.

But I am excited as anyone now that Falmer seems a real project that is ready to deliver a first class stadium.

The Board have worked wonders no doubt, but I got to say that the reason we havent gone the way of the Cherries, isnt that we havent spent or that somehow DK has been so very prudent, I would expect that our spending might of been equivalent to Bournemouth and others.

I am guessing we have stayed alive due to, yes good management, but also to some very generous donations and 'investment' by some very wealthy men.

Good management and financial prudence would surely have not been enough without the 'donations' - Withdean = losses.

But without the good management and financial prudence the 'donations' could easily have been wasted.

Full marks to DK and the board.
 










BigGully

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Sep 8, 2006
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Good management and financial prudence would surely have not been enough without the 'donations' - Withdean = losses.

But without the good management and financial prudence the 'donations' could easily have been wasted.

Full marks to DK and the board.


Thats my point I think you have mis-read what I said.

I said that the Club/DK have not necessarily been so very prudent.

As I understand it the club is running at a loss of maybe £2,000,000 a year and is already basically insolvent he then goes and spends £300,000 on a striker, £75,000 on Forster and undisclosed fee on Thomson and a fee on Whing I think, that isnt necessarily prudent and we should be careful before we self congratulate ourselves on running such a tight ship.

I am pleased the money was spent, however it was not down to DK being particularly careful, but down to wealthy benefactors.

My point on Management is that I dont know whether the Mangement is good or not but after such a long wait and the battles fought, to get to this point and still get the Stadium is a triumph for everyone involved.
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
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I've said it before - its easy to take for granted the fact this club hasn't wound up in administration, and considering the UNIQUE problems its had to cope with, I think its a bloody miracle. DK and the board deserve ENORMOUS credit for keeping the club above water over the last ten years. No other club in the League has had to play its home games 50-odd miles away for two years, then pay millions to have an athletics track developed into a "football ground", then fund an eight year battle to get permission granted for a stadium. In the great scheme of things, any misguided criticism of the board for not securing the signings of the likes of Savage, Hammond and O'Callaghan during this time can be taken with the contempt it deserves.

We're not out of the woods yet, but this board has done an outstanding job getting us this far, and I have every faith in them to deliver the goods now. They've not let us down yet.
 


Hiney

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Jul 5, 2003
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Penrose, Cornwall
I've said it before - its easy to take for granted the fact this club hasn't wound up in administration, and considering the UNIQUE problems its had to cope with, I think its a bloody miracle. DK and the board deserve ENORMOUS credit for keeping the club above water over the last ten years. No other club in the League has had to play its home games 50-odd miles away for two years, then pay millions to have an athletics track developed into a "football ground", then fund an eight year battle to get permission granted for a stadium. In the great scheme of things, any misguided criticism of the board for not securing the signings of the likes of Savage, Hammond and O'Callaghan during this time can be taken with the contempt it deserves.

We're not out of the woods yet, but this board has done an outstanding job getting us this far, and I have every faith in them to deliver the goods now. They've not let us down yet.

Nutshell

:thumbsup:
 












BigGully

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2006
7,139
I've said it before - its easy to take for granted the fact this club hasn't wound up in administration, and considering the UNIQUE problems its had to cope with, I think its a bloody miracle. DK and the board deserve ENORMOUS credit for keeping the club above water over the last ten years. No other club in the League has had to play its home games 50-odd miles away for two years, then pay millions to have an athletics track developed into a "football ground", then fund an eight year battle to get permission granted for a stadium. In the great scheme of things, any misguided criticism of the board for not securing the signings of the likes of Savage, Hammond and O'Callaghan during this time can be taken with the contempt it deserves.

We're not out of the woods yet, but this board has done an outstanding job getting us this far, and I have every faith in them to deliver the goods now. They've not let us down yet.


I agree with much, but to use the Savage, Hammond and O'Callaghan as a stick to beat the non beleivers is not fair.

The coaching management wanted to secure those players.

It was not that the funds weren't available, but the chairman didnt particularly fancy the players himself, that is not good Chairmanship.

You cant use that as an example of prudency whilst ignoring Murrays and other signings.
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,434
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I agree with much, but to use the Savage, Hammond and O'Callaghan as a stick to beat the non beleivers is not fair.

The coaching management wanted to secure those players.

It was not that the funds weren't available, but the chairman didnt particularly fancy the players himself, that is not good Chairmanship.

In the cases of Savage and Hammond, they both had deals on the table that they chose not to sign, essentially because they wanted more money. DK's position was (and always has been) that he will not be held to ransome and will not break the wage structure at the club to accomodate the demands of players and their agents. That IS good chairmanship.

I believe its largely thanks to that strict policy that we have avoided being the next Luton, Bournemouth, Rotherham (well, take your pick). Yes it means we'll lose some players, and miss out on others. But it also means the club is kept on a relatively even keel, and I think most people appreciate what is more important.
 


CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,102
In the cases of Savage and Hammond, they both had deals on the table that they chose not to sign, essentially because they wanted more money. DK's position was (and always has been) that he will not be held to ransome and will not break the wage structure at the club to accomodate the demands of players and their agents. That IS good chairmanship.

I believe its largely thanks to that strict policy that we have avoided being the next Luton, Bournemouth, Rotherham (well, take your pick). Yes it means we'll lose some players, and miss out on others. But it also means the club is kept on a relatively even keel, and I think most people appreciate what is more important.

THIS ARE EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS ON THE MATTER.
 


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