Kalimantan Gull
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On weak penalty claims a referee can have a quick think about it and go 'nah'. When he's looking at loads of slo-mo replays, its a lot harder to run back onto the pitch and go 'nah'
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[Albion] Denamrk v Maty Ryan
- Thread starter Bozza
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Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Mental Lental
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Well, if he'd kept his hands together we'd've found out if it was savable or not. Unfortunately he didn't.
portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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VAR is a complete flop and fans hate it...meaning FIFA will definitely go ahead with, supported by a marketing campaign telling us all how much more exciting and clearer it makes the game.
I dispair, the Lunatics are running...et al.
I dispair, the Lunatics are running...et al.
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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As much as I'd like Maty Ryan to do well it's really hard cheering on the Aussies. It's a conundrum for sure.
Very, very harsh pen. I'm with Martin O'Neill there. If you're going to be REALLY picky then the Aussie number 5 also pushes his man to create the space for the header, before the handball. VAR seemed to ignore that.
Have it down nearer his side?Ridiculous decision! He was contesting a header, WTF is he supposed to do with his arm
I'm not arguing about this one, as I'm not sure whether it's a fair decision or not, but in general, having your hands out or up etc is enough.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Without VAR Iran would have got an equaliser last night, maybe grabbed a point and left Spain sweating on the line.
It seems to me that VAR is making refs / linesmen slightly more lax, in much the same way that cricket umpires refer EVERY run-out even when the decision is patently obvious.
It seems to me that VAR is making refs / linesmen slightly more lax, in much the same way that cricket umpires refer EVERY run-out even when the decision is patently obvious.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
He was jumping - everyone raises their arms for leverage.
The ball hit his arm from about a yard away, he couldn't even see it let along move his arm towards it. Its a terrible decision.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Penalty for me, bit harsh on the yellow card though.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
With the Iran 'goal', the linesman actually already had his flag up before it even went to the review, so the goal would not have counted anyway. What he was checking was if he could allow it, but the lino had been spot on anyway.
Official Old Man
Uckfield Seagull
Martin O'Neil on the penalty. I'm going to argue because I know I'm right. Cloughie lives.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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True, but the commentator missed that when the goal so total shambles. I look forward to the time when the refs are miked up to the PA and explain to crowd why the goal has been disallowed - in 6 different languages.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
SI 4 BHA
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Law 12
Direct free kick
HANDLING THE BALL
Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with the hand or arm.
The following must be considered:
the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an offence
touching the ball with an object held in the hand (clothing, shinguard, etc.) is an offence
hitting the ball with a thrown object (boot, shinguard, etc.) is an offence
Not deliberate, not moving hand to ball and only a couple of feet between opponent and ball, so under the Laws, not a penalty.
Happy for VAR for black and white decisions but that is a joke. He has given a penalty because on screen he sees it has touched arm. So what. Are we now going to have penalty every time ball hits arm. This will ruin football. Already 2 pundits said yes and Oneil and Clattenberg said no. If any doubt should not be given. Next thing we will see is forwards aiming for defenders arm
How? How on earth did he deliberately handle the ball? It HAS to be deliberate and that's before we even cross the "clear and obvious error" debate.
Mental Lental
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Another shit thing about VAR is having to watch desperate fans screaming for it after the slightest infringement anywhere near the opponent's penalty area.