[Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

[SeagullinExile]

The penny is slowly starting to drop. More like this will show their true colours

I reckon we should try to sign Phillips - Just for a giggle like.

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

I reckon we should try to sign Phillips - Just for a giggle like.

A proper derisory bid too.

 

[Killer Whale]

Aha, but Guardiola was singing the praises of Graham Potter only a few weeks ago. “The best English coach he has met”. Check mate:

https://www.brightonandhoveindepend...otter-best-english-manager-i-have-met-2911274

Fair enough. I expect he will soon be off to Barca then, once Chris Hughton has turned them down...

 

[father_and_son]

I reckon we should try to sign Phillips - Just for a giggle like.

And loan him to a Championship side?

 

[Killer Whale]

There's a better than evens chance that the same Leeds fans hailing him as the messiah are going to be calling for his head as they sit in the relegation zone with a thumping great goals against column this winter. We'll see

That isn't going to happen.

If he stays we won't get relegated. WBA are dreadful, so are Villa, and so will the Play Off winner be, we know them we are better than all of them. Lot's better. I think we will surprise people and not be in a relegation dogfight myself, but we will see.

If Bielsa walks all bets are off though. And he very well might. He's mercurial.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

That isn't going to happen.

If he stays we won't get relegated. WBA are dreadful, so are Villa, and so will the Play Off winner be, we know them we are better than all of them. Lot's better. I think we will surprise people and not be in a relegation dogfight myself, but we will see.

If Bielsa walks all bets are off though. And he very well might. He's mercurial.

The only surprise to the lazy, ignorant football media will be if you struggle.

The majority of your own fans (certainly the ones on social media) seem to think European football is easily within reach, while the idiot media and ex-footballer pundits- despite the fact your defence currently consists of Championship journeymen Luke Ayling and Liam Cooper- are blinded by the usual big club mythology into thinking Leeds are guaranteed to be a success at this level.

 

[Killer Whale]

Thats a weird thing to ask........Football fans are pretty much all the same in many ways.......... Do you ever get envy when another clubs fans celebrate something? I certainly don't... There is no envy of anyone elses joy, as a fan Joy is felt when your team does well or arch rivals fail (in our case Crystal Palace) and the pain comes from our team getting beaten or under performing. I couldn't care less that you got promoted and I didnt care less when Derby beat you last season. Neither affects me in the slightest.

Being objective, as a neutral its clear Bielsa is a great coach who has done great for Leeds, It is also clear that the promising player whose development path our club have carefully managed in lending him to Newport then Peterborough and then Leeds has been great for the player and most certainly a big advantage to your promotion season.

But this is where it ends, the level of insult and shear lack of respect is staggering from a decent section of your fans. We keep hearing that nobody had heard of him before he turned up at Leeds, even though the numerous forums here on Bens progress prior to this season, show thats bollocks. The real truth is nobody in Leeds had heard of him (except Bielsa and your DOF) before he turned up. I read the scorn from many of your fans when they first heard you were getting a Brighton prospect with no championship experience. Literally tens of your fans had written him off as not good enough before he'd even pulled on the Leeds shirt, but now, now you've witnessed first hand what our club has known and invested in for years........."It was Leeds that made him", "It was Bielsa that made him" "he was crap before he came here" etc etc.

And then there's all this nonsense where you think any right minded footballer couldn't possibly choose a #TeamlikeBrighton over mighty Leeds. The lack of respect is mind boggling.

I think you'll find many fans respect that your club was the pre-eminent force in English football for a while 50 odd years ago, and respect your success and domination under Revie, just as we've seen Liverpool in the 80's, Man U in the 90's, Man City in the last ten years......... But our respective falls from grace where caused by different reasons, we didnt chase the dream, we were asset stripped. We fought, literally fought back from zero to be where we are, We respect others in the league, but we are here on merit, we've earned it and certainly dont believe Leeds achievements of 50 years ago make you some special case where a player couldnt possibly choose our 30K packed stadium, Brand new 21st century training facility or our Cat A academy. There's a lot going right for us, the arrogance displayed by your fans is at time staggering.

Hopefully you'll build from here, but the world has moved on since you were last in the PL, its bloody tough and you'd do well like Villa too finish 17th.....whatever you did in the past, you have a championship squad and you must strengthen. All your fans billy big bollocks means zip.

Good luck next season, you're going to need it. The championship it aint

Thanks for the generous advice, much appreciated.

On the Ben White question, do you think if he were out of contract he would come back to Brighton or stay at Leeds? (Assuming he had no other offers).

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

I’m astonished he’s put the correct ‘you’re’ in that tweet.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Thanks for the generous advice, much appreciated.

On the Ben White question, do you think if he were out of contract he would come back to Brighton or stay at Leeds? (Assuming he had no other offers).

It’s a daft question. Do you think we would have loaned out a highly rated young player, in the final year of his contract?

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Thanks for the generous advice, much appreciated.

On the Ben White question, do you think if he were out of contract he would come back to Brighton or stay at Leeds? (Assuming he had no other offers).

You can't answer that question any more than we can, so let's cut the Big Club bullshit and resign yourself to the fact that we hold the cards here, and your best player last season doesn't belong to you. If he ends up at Leeds, it will cost you an absolute fortune (and a hefty sell on fee, no doubt) for a player who has no PL experience. If he stays, we retain a potential star that we've known about for years. If he goes elsewhere: again, we get a massive fee.

Whatever happens: we win. You need to realise that.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

It’s a daft question. Do you think we would have loaned out a highly rated young player, in the final year of his contract?

You beat me to it.

 

[Mr Putdown]

From his interesting, honest posts so far, I hope Killer Whale continues to contribute on here in the future.

 

[vagabond]

From his interesting, honest posts so far, I hope Killer Whale continues to contribute on here in the future.

Killer Whale is certainly an improvement on 90% of the Leeds fans online. However I would like him/her to acknowledge the general arrogance and yes, delusion of most their fan base regards Ben White.

KW, answer these questions honestly;

1) Do you believe Bielsa has made Ben White the player he is?
2) Do you see us as a team that plays hoof ball?

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

From his interesting, honest posts so far, I hope Killer Whale continues to contribute on here in the future.

I assume you are stirring just a little bit ? ( you’re Palace aren’t you?). Post 797 shows his true colours.

 

[SeagullinExile]

From his interesting, honest posts so far, I hope Killer Whale continues to contribute on here in the future.

Get in the bin Nigel

 

[vagabond]

If he doesn’t force a move he’s a fool

https://twitter.com/leecouling/status/1288177898654924801

 

[vagabond]

He is Leeds now and always will be. Don’t ruin his future

https://twitter.com/dansfootprints/status/1288206537140449282

 

[Eeyore]

Fair enough. I expect he will soon be off to Barca then, once Chris Hughton has turned them down...

What did Messi actually say in the now deleted for legal reasons Sun article ?

Only the only thing I found was a quote from 8 years ago and nothing recent.

 

[highflyer]

Do Guardiola and Pochettino talk about the influence Chris Hughton has had on their football philosophy?

Does the world's (formerly?) greatest player ask for Chris Hughton to be head hunted to manage Barca?

Serious questions? What's the answer old son? Would that be a no?

As noted already, what people say (or maybe don't say in the case of Messi?) is neither here nor there.

Not least as many (myself included) would say that Chris Hughton, while hugely respected in football circles, has never been given the wider credit or attention that he deserved. For a number of reasons, some of which we can guess at, but certainly including that he is extremely modest and understated as a person.

The FACT remains that in terms of English football (we all know that if it didn't happen on a wet Tuesday night in Barnsley then it doesn't count), the track record of Bielsa at Leeds and Hughton at Brighton are remarkably similar. Both inherited a poor team (not sure how bad Leeds were, and stand to be corrected, but I don't think they were in imminent danger of relegation, as Brighton was). Then taking that team, without superstar additions, very close to promotion. Then picking those same players up from the floor and playing great football for a full season to win promotion.

So that is all we actually know so far. The future is never certain. The Premier League is a different challenge. Clearly Bielsa is a great coach, but that may not be enough if he doesn't get the players he needs.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

The only surprise to the lazy, ignorant football media will be if you struggle.

The majority of your own fans (certainly the ones on social media) seem to think European football is easily within reach, while the idiot media and ex-footballer pundits- despite the fact your defence currently consists of Championship journeymen Luke Ayling and Liam Cooper- are blinded by the usual big club mythology into thinking Leeds are guaranteed to be a success at this level.

The same idiot media and pundits that drooled all over Huddersfield when we came up and then got themselves into a frenzy with Norwich and Villa but not Sheffield Utd because they are shit.

The similarities between villa and Leeds are scary. Key players belong to other clubs, will have to spend ridiculous amounts of money to keep the promoted team together.

Ben White will cost around £35m. Replacements for Ayling, cooper and Hernandez is going to be another £60-£70 million, two strikers because bamford is shit is going to be another £40 million. So around £140m with not a clue that they’ll be successful as they replace the back bone of the promotion team. Never a good strategy.
Villa written all over it. Villa had grealish, Leeds don’t.


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