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Debt collector robbed in Moulsecoomb



algie

The moaning of life
Jan 8, 2006
14,713
In rehab
In today's Argus:

Debt collector robbed in Moulsecoomb From The Argus)



Not being funny but who exactly is going to own up to the old bill if they've seen it? Now they know the guy was a bailiff any sympathy they may have had will be long gone. This is Moulsecoomb after all.

It's like asking for people to come forward having seen a Traffic Warden get abused.

AS IF

That is quality.Love it.:clap2:
 




Rowdey

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
2,589
Herne Hill
well bluejuice i come from scoomb yes i work hard (have my own company) i have seen the sea in brighton ,antigua,dubai,mexico,africa, the list goes on many of the people from the estate are hardworking people :mad:

Blimey BJ, you've just made Gibbo use one of his 3 or 4 posts per year (on ave) - I'm no prolific poster, but that must have ticked him off..! :lol:

Wonder what will 'wake' him next..? Maybe someone saying 'Bevendean was much harder than 'Scoombe back in the days..and ran then in the fields behind Heath Hill Avenue..?!' :D
 


Freddie Goodwin.

Well-known member
Mar 31, 2007
7,186
Brighton
I remeber Coldean & 'scoomb popping over said field to Bevendean back in the day.
 


WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
27,792
Mile Oak, Fishersgate Courthope, East Hill Yoof club - that was where the real action was :angel:
 








Jamie

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Jun 28, 2008
882
In most cases it is not the debt that is the problem but the bailiffs/his company's charges. That £524 payment was probablya parking ticket of £60 plus charges.

yep but everyone is entitled to be paid to do a job. If there was not the debt then there would not be the debt collector. Still, if you dnt givve credit then you dont have debt
 






BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
Not disputing that everybody is entitled to be paid for doing a job, nobody could argue against that but bailiffs charges either imposed by the company or the individual are not reasonable in fact they are exhorbitant to say the least and seriously compound the debt.
 


Oct 7, 2008
4
Burgess Hill
In most cases it is not the debt that is the problem but the bailiffs/his company's charges. That £524 payment was probablya parking ticket of £60 plus charges.

Not necessarily. The article is confusing as it firstly states that the man attacked was a debt collector and then it mentions that he was a bailiff. It is quite possible to be the former and not the latter. I'll explain.

I've run my own business for the last 4 years as a debt collector, process server and, more recently, as a mortgage arrears counsellor, the latter of which is perhaps the most satisfying as you're trying to help people keep their homes by making realistic and sustainable proposals to their mortgage company).

As a debt collector, I walk the streets of Burgess Hill once a week (and Haywards Heath once a month) visiting customers (people I have previously met via an instruction from a client and who I have agreed weekly, fortnightly or monthly payments with). These payments range from £5 per week to £200 per month and the debts are mostly for cards, loans, catalogues, mobiles,etc. I have banter with all of them -(my ice breaker when first meeting them is usually to chuck a couple of crap mother-in-law jokes their way and 'threaten' that, if they don't pay me regularly, I'll tell them some more!)- and consider some of them to be friends, so much so that I received a stack of cards and bottles at Christmas. My attitude and approach is to treat them as I would wish to be treated if I were on the other side of the door.

In actual fact, it's not too dissimilar to when I had a Seagulls Lottery round in Coldean in the 80's; I just don't get a free season ticket for my efforts!

I make a note of each payment I collect so it's possible at any given time to know how much I have collected that evening.

In view of this, it is quite possible to be carrying an amount of cash in the region (or in excess) of the amount the bloke in the article was robbed of, and my work is unrelated to bailiff actvities which, as BG says, usually results in seemingly unfair and large increases in the original debt due to their 'costs'.

Whilst I accept that the general perception of debt collectors is akin to traffic wardens and can, to an extent, understand people taking delight in seeing one attacked and robbed, there but for the grace of God go I.
I work stupidly long hours to provide a roof and food for my 3 children in an industry in which I have chosen to use my experience and skills to make a living, not in an aggressive or confrontational way which 'compounds misery for people who may not be able to afford it' - all the debts I collect have been genuinely incurred by people who should and can afford to repay them at a rate which is convenient to them- but in a way which provides a bit of mutual fun and, in a couple of cases, the only human contact they may see from week to week.

The bloke who was attacked is a human being doing a job which he chose to do but which is necessary to prevent financial anarchy. He may be a father / husband/ grandad. He pisses and shits the same way as all males on this site. I hope he's able to make a quick recovery and be able to continue to provide for his dependants.
 


little al

Crystal Palace fan
Apr 4, 2009
3,628
Aberdeen, United Kingdom
Not necessarily. The article is confusing as it firstly states that the man attacked was a debt collector and then it mentions that he was a bailiff. It is quite possible to be the former and not the latter. I'll explain.

I've run my own business for the last 4 years as a debt collector, process server and, more recently, as a mortgage arrears counsellor, the latter of which is perhaps the most satisfying as you're trying to help people keep their homes by making realistic and sustainable proposals to their mortgage company).

As a debt collector, I walk the streets of Burgess Hill once a week (and Haywards Heath once a month) visiting customers (people I have previously met via an instruction from a client and who I have agreed weekly, fortnightly or monthly payments with). These payments range from £5 per week to £200 per month and the debts are mostly for cards, loans, catalogues, mobiles,etc. I have banter with all of them -(my ice breaker when first meeting them is usually to chuck a couple of crap mother-in-law jokes their way and 'threaten' that, if they don't pay me regularly, I'll tell them some more!)- and consider some of them to be friends, so much so that I received a stack of cards and bottles at Christmas. My attitude and approach is to treat them as I would wish to be treated if I were on the other side of the door.

In actual fact, it's not too dissimilar to when I had a Seagulls Lottery round in Coldean in the 80's; I just don't get a free season ticket for my efforts!

I make a note of each payment I collect so it's possible at any given time to know how much I have collected that evening.

In view of this, it is quite possible to be carrying an amount of cash in the region (or in excess) of the amount the bloke in the article was robbed of, and my work is unrelated to bailiff actvities which, as BG says, usually results in seemingly unfair and large increases in the original debt due to their 'costs'.

Whilst I accept that the general perception of debt collectors is akin to traffic wardens and can, to an extent, understand people taking delight in seeing one attacked and robbed, there but for the grace of God go I.
I work stupidly long hours to provide a roof and food for my 3 children in an industry in which I have chosen to use my experience and skills to make a living, not in an aggressive or confrontational way which 'compounds misery for people who may not be able to afford it' - all the debts I collect have been genuinely incurred by people who should and can afford to repay them at a rate which is convenient to them- but in a way which provides a bit of mutual fun and, in a couple of cases, the only human contact they may see from week to week.

The bloke who was attacked is a human being doing a job which he chose to do but which is necessary to prevent financial anarchy. He may be a father / husband/ grandad. He pisses and shits the same way as all males on this site. I hope he's able to make a quick recovery and be able to continue to provide for his dependants.


Nice post.

Shame about your horrible user name. Let's you down.
 






little al

Crystal Palace fan
Apr 4, 2009
3,628
Aberdeen, United Kingdom
Thank you. The user name's kind of ironic from one of my favourite Python sketches/era's (as in disgustingly named woman explodes!). But apologies for any offence.


No offence to me, but I could see it being to others.
I don't know the sketch you refer to, maybe others won't either.
Just think it probably wasn't the wisest choice of name, apology duly accepted though.
 








BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
Mrs N-B
I agree with what you have said and agree that to many firms and individuals you are an essential aid my 'beef' is with Bailiffs employed by company who add on very high charges.

Many years ago, nearly 40 , I had occassion to have a bailiff call to evict us as the person was selling the property we rented and the only way we could get rehoused was to be evicted. My wife was due to have a baby at any time and unbenown to us
the council had decided to offer us a house as soon as we were evicted. The bailiff and PC stood at the bottom of my stairs by the front door and when I answered it I said " I am going to hit the first man over the doorstep with my piece of wood (5ft of 4 x 2) and the other will arrest me but you go away and decide which one of you wants to be the one to get " They went away and few minutes later the council phoned for us to go to the office, it transpired the police phoned the council. So all ended well but I dont like bailiffs.
 


Oct 7, 2008
4
Burgess Hill
They really don't help themselves when they charge for each visit and letter (to people who genuinely can't afford to pay and who are often scared witless by their antics). But I'm generalising. I've obviously had dealings with them and some adopt the same approach to their work as I do ('do as you would be done by') whilst adopting a slightly harder tone without menace. But some are just plain nasty and a law unto themselves.

I've seen the effect on some of my own customers after their visits and it's just plain wrong in this day and age. True, some debtors do take the piss and will only respond if completely backed into a corner. But the emotional and psycological harm caused to others is quite disturbing to see.
Anyway, glad it all worked out for you.
 


Freddie Goodwin.

Well-known member
Mar 31, 2007
7,186
Brighton
I've also done debt collecting, by phone, and in nearly every case have been able to come up with a workable arrangement as well as help & advice to 'customers'.

Sadly a verry small number of my colleagues took a very dogmatic view, some even taking things personally, as if the money was owed to them, and I've had people ringing me in tears or very distressed.

The way i saw it was that there was always a chance that somebody may pull the wool over my eyes as a soft touch but rather that than hearing of a suicide of somebody you may have been hounding.
 




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