Death Rattle of the Phone-In?

[Lush]

(Leaving aside the ridiculous diatribe about NSC from Ian Hart on tonights phone in....)

Let's be honest here. No-one is phoning in. The 6 or 7 or so people that got on were all they had.

And the callers tonight were a joke. It is boring and frustrating as the quality is so poor. Ian Hart is on a sinking ship.

As a platform for comment or debate it sucks.

Whatever the faults of NSC - and the opportunity to have personal pops at people is one of them - there are far far far livelier, informed entertaining debates on here. Not least because hundreds of people read it and post their opinions.

The radio commentaries are great. The people who phone in from the match are OK.

But the fans phone in is dying a painful death.

 

[Yorkie]

I have phoned in after matches before now but I really don't feel that I want to now.
It should be there to discuss the match but somehow it has totally lost it's way.

 

[Biscuit]

I think having a phone in is brilliant, but I agree it has somewhat lost its way. I hope it picks up soon, and Im sure it will.

I don't think its dying a slow death, more going through a bad patch.

 

[Gully]

The advantage of NSC is that people can access it, as they do, from all over the World whereas a phone in is only any good if you actually live in the area where it is broadcast. At the moment I have 606 on, it isn't too bad, it's always fun hearing fans from Premiership clubs whining on as if their team losing is the end of the World, whereas we know different!

 

[BensGrandad]

It usually follows that the phone in has few callers when we play away but for home matches you are left waiting for ages due to the numbers of callers.

Obviously fans listening to the match at home for away games are not able to discuss vital moments of the game as the fans at home are.

 

[Yorkie]

Actually BG it is easy to phone in when you are at an away game.
I have done it myself. You ring in, tell them you have been at the game and then they ring you back. You even get to hear the phone in on your phone whilst queueing up to talk. The background staff tell you when you are due to speak.

 

[Alby]

I think having a phone in is brilliant, but I agree it has somewhat lost its way. I hope it picks up soon, and Im sure it will.

I don't think its dying a slow death, more going through a bad patch.

Agree that having a phone in is great and hope it is just a bad patch. I have no problem with Harty but from experience as soon as he gets a bee in his bonnet over anything he seems not to be able to stop going on about it.

Thought the show was supposed to be about the Albion not any individual.Only those that post on NSC would have been aware of the recent comments concerning him. Therefore i feel he should have posted his response on NSC stating his position not used his Radio Show to put the matter fully in the Public Domain.

 

[London Irish]

Well, my view I think we should always resist the temptation to big up NSC too much. It's still a minority medium among Albion fans, although undoubtedly a very successful and growing one. It shares the same faults as all messageboards, in that it's overly dominated by the regular posters, although as there are so many regular posters, that fault is much less worse than many other messageboards, it has to be said.

As for the phone-in, I still think it's vital. The phone-in seemed a bit low-key today because I think everyone was waiting for someone to phone in to give Harty the on-air scrap he clearly wanted. It was hilarious listening to the call of El "what is he president of" Presidente, because Harty was expecting him to kick off, yet all EP wanted was a friendly chat about the game. As such, I think EP is representative of the vast majority of NSC.

I have to disagree with Lush on this, apart from the silly attack on NSC and particularly THPP and TGC, I thought the phone-in today was OK, lots of good chat about the game and the best Albion managers - sure, there was no sparkling banter, but you can't have it all.

Harty made a false step today because turning on his fellow Brighton fans won't do anyone any good in the long-run, and I think Harty will now face a lot of accusations that he is misusing the phone-in to vent some pretty petty gripes of his.

Over the past year, Harty has alienated himself from prominent people at the club by slightly overhyping or misconstruing at times the difficulties the club is in. I thought Harty has been doing very well recently on the phone-in in mending fences but the last couple of weeks now have been a setback. The last thing Harty needs to do now is alienate a section of fans too as well as the club, even if it a small minority of fans who use NSC.

Halfway through the inquiry that will decide our future and still not quite yet safe in this division, we should all be looking not to go out of our way to alienate each other in these dangerous times - and the vital medium of the fans' phone-in above all should'nt be going down that road.

 

[BensGrandad]

Actually BG it is easy to phone in when you are at an away game.
I have done it myself. You ring in, tell them you have been at the game and then they ring you back. You even get to hear the phone in on your phone whilst queueing up to talk. The background staff tell you when you are due to speak.

I take your point and would agree but my point was that very few people phone in from away games to actually discuss the match. I tend to tune into the local station to hear their slant on the game I have just watched and I am sure that many do this if only because you cannot hear the complete SCR phone in.

At home matches I think people tend to phone in on the way home and listen to the reaction whilst travelling home in the car or with their walkmans.

 

[Bakesy]

Harty....

 

[Albion Dan]

What a crap post. The phone In is vital and I always enjoy it. Harty is a legend and after some of the crap posted on here about him you can hardly blame him for having some response.

Some of the people on this board seem to think that what they think or say is important or representative or that they carry some weight. I think its time they woke up and realised that their opinions are are as worthless as shit and nobody cares what most of you think except the 50 or so regular posters on here who like to have their little love ins.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

As for the phone-in, I still think it's vital.

I'm with London Irish on this one. It would be nice if it reflected a wider set of views tho i.e. cut off the clowns early-doors. Maybe even make it into a comedy thing like have a klaxon that sounds after 180 seconds or something and cuts the caller off. Not a personal thing, doing it that way. Cos if punk taught us nothing else it taught us that (talking about 7" singles) if something can't be said in three minutes, it's basically not worth saying. Which is a truism that still hold true. Least it did til New Order released Blue Monday...

 

[Lush]

I'm with London Irish on this one. It would be nice if it reflected a wider set of views tho i.e. cut off the clowns early-doors.

Trouble is i really don't think they can. There is rarely anyone else waiting.

Even after a home game i have got on after waiting for the current caller to finish. And that's after not being able to bear the desperate pleas for people to phone any longer.

AS FAR AS I CAN SEE - no-one is phoning in.

On the radio debate is great. But you need to have plenty of people phoning up. And they just AREN'T.

 

[NMH]

What a crap post. The phone In is vital and I always enjoy it. Harty is a legend and after some of the crap posted on here about him you can hardly blame him for having some response.

Some of the people on this board seem to think that what they think or say is important or representative or that they carry some weight. I think its time they woke up and realised that their opinions are are as worthless as shit and nobody cares what most of you think except the 50 or so regular posters on here who like to have their little love ins.

Although there have been cliques on NSC in the past, I'd like to remind you that, although NSC is just a forum for people with opinions - the individual's point of view is not 'worthless as shit etc' just because each individual doesn't have a radio show or some title behind the scenes. Otherwise I suppose YOUR opinion is, by that standard as worthless.

Yes, the phone-in can be entertaining and provocative, but let's not devalue every OTHER alternative avenue of opinion either.
If you want to give more cred to voices on radio or even on telly, or even with big titles to them - just consider the president of the United States and get some perspective!

It's not pertinant to slam one forum vs another, if a spokesperson hasn't done their homework but has had a lot to say on the subject, then that person is open to be corrected.
In turn though, there is some over-reaction from more than one party here, it appears.

 

[NMH]

Trouble is i really don't think they can. There is rarely anyone else waiting.

Even after a home game i have got on after waiting for the current caller to finish. And that's after not being able to bear the desperate pleas for people to phone any longer.

AS FAR AS I CAN SEE - no-one is phoning in.

On the radio debate is great. But you need to have plenty of people phoning up. And they just AREN'T.

If people are not calling, then some incentive needs to be tabled by the presenter - or else there has to be some more input from the presenter to interest callers.
Surely NSC DOES have enough subject matter (yes, on the subject of football and BHAFC) for Ian Hart to actually use some of it after a game.

.....or maybe the latest stuff is designed to exacerbate callers and opinion onto the show?

 

[Minge]

Where is the love boys and girls?

Harty has made a major contribution to the survival of the Albion over the years, as has NSC.

Try to empathise with Harty, we all are a bit sensitive to criticism, Harty is no exception to the above, but made a mistake in using the radio show as a means of having a pop. We all make mistakes, and I expect IH will look back on tonight's show and realise that it was not his best moment. He has a full time job and does not have time to research things as well as he might.

My favourite comic Viz is descibed as "99% irrelevant shite", and thats why I love you guys (and fellow gays) at NSC.

 

[South Stand Zealot]

Death Rattle of the Phone-IN ?

I hope not but won't listen anymore until Hart is replaced. Enough is enough !

Ian Hart -

 

[dannyboy]

Well, my view I think we should always resist the temptation to big up NSC too much. It's still a minority medium among Albion fans, although undoubtedly a very successful and growing one. It shares the same faults as all messageboards, in that it's overly dominated by the regular posters, although as there are so many regular posters, that fault is much less worse than many other messageboards, it has to be said.

As for the phone-in, I still think it's vital. The phone-in seemed a bit low-key today because I think everyone was waiting for someone to phone in to give Harty the on-air scrap he clearly wanted. It was hilarious listening to the call of El "what is he president of" Presidente, because Harty was expecting him to kick off, yet all EP wanted was a friendly chat about the game. As such, I think EP is representative of the vast majority of NSC.

I have to disagree with Lush on this, apart from the silly attack on NSC and particularly THPP and TGC, I thought the phone-in today was OK, lots of good chat about the game and the best Albion managers - sure, there was no sparkling banter, but you can't have it all.

Harty made a false step today because turning on his fellow Brighton fans won't do anyone any good in the long-run, and I think Harty will now face a lot of accusations that he is misusing the phone-in to vent some pretty petty gripes of his.

Over the past year, Harty has alienated himself from prominent people at the club by slightly overhyping or misconstruing at times the difficulties the club is in. I thought Harty has been doing very well recently on the phone-in in mending fences but the last couple of weeks now have been a setback. The last thing Harty needs to do now is alienate a section of fans too as well as the club, even if it a small minority of fans who use NSC.

Halfway through the inquiry that will decide our future and still not quite yet safe in this division, we should all be looking not to go out of our way to alienate each other in these dangerous times - and the vital medium of the fans' phone-in above all should'nt be going down that road.

spot on mate
great post

 

[Windmill]

Yet again another anti-Hart thread, however it is presented.

'The phone-in is dying', 'no-one rings in anymore'? Why are people trying to destroy the credibility of the phone-in? Is it because Ian dared to criticise people who post on NSC? Or do they really believe that NSC is more representative because it attracts posters from a wider arena?

Specious arguments. NSC is not representative of Brighton fans.
It serves as a medium for Brighton fans to sound off, but at the end of the day it is only a message board used by a small % of Brighton fans, however important we feel our own opinions are.

The phone-in is run by the BBC for Brighton fans who both go to the game, and for those who do not or cannot. It will not be as popular when we are away from home, because people may not feel as 'engaged' when they travel back from an away game and cannot listen to the phone-in first hand.

I'm sure Ian will recognise that to indulge in 'handbags' over the airwaves was not his best move. But people with long memories will know that he was never prone to thinking before he acted when he ran Gull's Eye.

I really do think that we need to select our targets more carefully. We are all supposed to be Brighton fans first and foremost. I can think of many people we could be attacking who are far more worthy of our bile and vitriol than Ian Hart.

 

[jonogulls]

I think the problem is that Ian Hart is a TOSSBAG.