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[Albion] De Zerbi Cam v Liverpool











Sheebo

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Jul 13, 2003
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You can see he knows the rules (unlike most of nsc including myself at the time) after watching the stonewall pen on the monitor. Some posters were still saying it wasn’t a pen after having the rules points out to them 🤦🏻‍♂️
 


brighton_tom

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Jul 23, 2008
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You can see he knows the rules (unlike most of nsc including myself at the time) after watching the stonewall pen on the monitor. Some posters were still saying it wasn’t a pen after having the rules points out to them 🤦🏻‍♂️
What do the rules say these days? I’m lost.
 




Sheebo

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Jul 13, 2003
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What do the rules say these days? I’m lost.
Basically nothing about it coming off body onto hand - and VVDs arm was in a completely unnatural position and sticking out etc etc - by the laws it was a pen 100%
 


Zeberdi

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Oct 20, 2022
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Love the camaraderie he has with Klopp in our cam video - they seemed genuinely friendly with a lot of respect there. Klopp calming De Zerbi down when he got the Yellow was classy.
 


jackalbion

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Aug 30, 2011
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Basically nothing about it coming off body onto hand - and VVDs arm was in a completely unnatural position and sticking out etc etc - by the laws it was a pen 100%
So the rule isn’t that, if it comes off the body it isn’t handball. For me it seems stupid that if your hand is in an unnatural position it doesn’t matter if it touched your body first.
 




B-right-on

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Apr 23, 2015
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Love the camaraderie he has with Klopp in our cam video - they seemed genuinely friendly with a lot of respect there. Klopp calming De Zerbi down when he got the Yellow was classy.

I thought the same. I know Klipperty gets a lot of stick on here but I think he's pretty ok as a manager (there's a hell of a lot worse in the PL) and obviously likes RDZ from the video and various comments.
 


B-right-on

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So the rule isn’t that, if it comes off the body it isn’t handball. For me it seems stupid that if your hand is in an unnatural position it doesn’t matter if it touched your body first.

I saw a video with Mike Dean which said that if it comes off the body, it's still down to whether the arm is in an unnatural position or not. Can't remember where I saw it.
 






Kalimantan Gull

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Aug 13, 2003
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Central Borneo / the Lizard
So the rule isn’t that, if it comes off the body it isn’t handball. For me it seems stupid that if your hand is in an unnatural position it doesn’t matter if it touched your body first.
I thought we'd done this, the rule got changed so it can be handball if it comes off your body first. I didn't know that, as it seems, most pundits in the game also didn't.

Here's a penalty Luton got against Wolves which wasn't overturned by VAR.

 


jackalbion

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Aug 30, 2011
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I thought we'd done this, the rule got changed so it can be handball if it comes off your body first. I didn't know that, as it seems, most pundits in the game also didn't.

Here's a penalty Luton got against Wolves which wasn't overturned by VAR.

I’ve been hit with Marseille fever so been out the game for a few days, thanks got it now.
 






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