[Albion] Dan Ashworth

[Seasidesage]

I think Chris Hughton was a great manager who had done a fantastic job but the team had reached the end of the line, the cycle was over and probably more importantly TB had decided on a different model moving forward. Potter may or may not be a better in game manager but he does have a good track record of developing players and improving them. For all his good points I don't see Chris as that sort of coach, he's more of a man manager and tactical coach.

The move to DA and the Academy set up dictates a different sort of coach and that is what we went for. I will always have a huge respect for CH but it was time for a change of direction...

 

[Machiavelli]

1) That's part of my frustration with Potter - he does not have a slow, ageing squad. Potter has been given better players.

2) And to reiterate the last time I answered that point, that is going to be either two or three wins more than this season to get to 50. Should be eminently doable. Could we have beaten Man U at home, Palace at home and WBA away with better luck and finishing? And that's my other frustration. The finishing, It has been our constant, non-stop, without fail issue. Either that's the players or the types of players or the attacking strategy and decision making. And, to address the budget, I don't see TB owning a Middle East state at any point in the future, nor should he EVER sell the club, so we must be aiming to beat the budget to get top ten. I would suggest that means chipping away at it each season?

RE 1, Potter has attracted and sought out better players but many have the potential to be even better than they currently are (Lamptey, White, Moder, Caicedo?, Zeqiri). I've said this before, but we've struggled with injuries big time this season -- didn't happen under Hughton.

2, I did say it's possible and an ambition, but shouldn't be an expectation. I agree with you on the rest of 2 though -- Bloom is trying to beat/cheat the remorselessness of the player wages metric.

 

[Guinness Boy]

RE 1, Potter has attracted and sought out better players but many have the potential to be even better than they currently are (Lamptey, White, Moder, Caicedo?, Zeqiri). I've said this before, but we've struggled with injuries big time this season -- didn't happen under Hughton.

2, I did say it's possible and an ambition, but shouldn't be an expectation. I agree with you on the rest of 2 though -- Bloom is trying to beat/cheat the remorselessness of the player wages metric.

All teams have struggled with injury. There was really no close season. As for the points, not an expectation but perhaps a target? I just don't think we should or will be saying "get to 40 points and that's you done lads".

 

[Machiavelli]

All teams have struggled with injury. There was really no close season. As for the points, not an expectation but perhaps a target? I just don't think we should or will be saying "get to 40 points and that's you done lads".

Yup, fully on board with that.

 

[albionalex]

RE 1, Potter has attracted and sought out better players but many have the potential to be even better than they currently are (Lamptey, White, Moder, Caicedo?, Zeqiri). I've said this before, but we've struggled with injuries big time this season -- didn't happen under Hughton.

2, I did say it's possible and an ambition, but shouldn't be an expectation. I agree with you on the rest of 2 though -- Bloom is trying to beat/cheat the remorselessness of the player wages metric.

Have we struggled with injuries? Lamptey and March the only long-term absentees off the top of my head.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Have we struggled with injuries? Lamptey and March the only long-term absentees off the top of my head.

Webster was out for ages. Lallana has missed large parts of the season.

 

[Machiavelli]

Have we struggled with injuries? Lamptey and March the only long-term absentees off the top of my head.

Izquierdo and Andone out all season.
Webster, Lallana and Welbeck out for long period(s). Propper not available for long stretches. Mac Allister, Lallana and Alzate all out for a while with CV19. Veltman and Burn out for spells too.
That's half the squad

 

[Icy Gull]

Have we struggled with injuries? Lamptey and March the only long-term absentees off the top of my head.

That’s a joke, right?

The only season I can remember us having more injuries and players missing games is Garcia’s season in charge

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Izquierdo and Andone out all season.
Webster, Lallana and Welbeck out for long period(s). Propper not available for long stretches. Mac Allister, Lallana and Alzate all out for a while with CV19. Veltman and Burn out for spells too.
That's half the squad

I’m not disagreeing with the point you are making but injuries to Lallana and Welbeck would have been fully factored in prior to signing. They have both been well managed in terms of game time and protecting them from further absence.

 

[albionalex]

That’s a joke, right?

The only season I can remember us having more injuries and players missing games is Garcia’s season in charge

I genuinely couldn't remember the injuries being an abnormal level and it doesn't look like they have been.

 

[Weststander]

All teams have struggled with injury. There was really no close season. As for the points, not an expectation but perhaps a target? I just don't think we should or will be saying "get to 40 points and that's you done lads".

Some clubs far more than others.

CP, Liverpool, Brighton and Newcastle all missing a load of first teamers for long periods

Arsenal, Chelsea and West Ham lucked out this season.

 

[albionalex]

Izquierdo and Andone out all season.
Webster, Lallana and Welbeck out for long period(s). Propper not available for long stretches. Mac Allister, Lallana and Alzate all out for a while with CV19. Veltman and Burn out for spells too.
That's half the squad

We've definitely had injuries and players missing games due to covid but I think for e.g having a Dutch international defender as our backup is better than having Gaëtan Bong as a starter.

 

[Stat Brother]

Izquierdo and Andone out all season.
Webster, Lallana and Welbeck out for long period(s). Propper not available for long stretches. Mac Allister, Lallana and Alzate all out for a while with CV19. Veltman and Burn out for spells too.
That's half the squad

Are you saying Ashworth only buys sicknotes?

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Have we struggled with injuries? Lamptey and March the only long-term absentees off the top of my head.

There's a table in The Times today showing the lost hours to injury by team and I think we were 5th or 6th highest. There is a significant difference across the teams this season, contrary to what Guiness Boy thinks.

 

[Frutos]

There's a table in The Times today showing the lost hours to injury by team and I think we were 5th or 6th highest. There is a significant difference across the teams this season, contrary to what Guiness Boy thinks.

Wouldn't that be skewed by the likes of Andone and Izquierdo?

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

Wouldn't that be skewed by the likes of Andone and Izquierdo?

skewed because they’re injured?

 

[dazzer6666]

I don’t think CH ever shifted in the way he thought.

I remember there was a rumour that CH had lost the dressing room as the players were sick of playing anti football. I saw somewhere that Bruno said that sometimes the manager needs to listen to the players. After Saints, Cardiff and the embarrassing absolute thrashing by Bournemouth I imagine the players decided they’d have to play like CH wanted to have any chance of not being Championship players the next season. The effort at Spurs and the dire but effective game against Wolves away where we hardly got out of our half followed by the towel chucking in in the first half in the game against Newcastle, which we managed to up in the second half saved us...just. We were saved by Palace against Cardiff and Cardiff being dire and unable to up their game at the end of the season.

CH had run out of ideas and once the players allegedly started rebelling against the negative shite tactics it did for him. Remember the shots of TB’s face in a few games towards the end of the season? He was hating it as much as me. I would 100% have stopped going to games, even though I was tied into 1901 if he’d stayed and continued serving up football that stank the division out.

I was more CH out than I have been for any manager I remember by the end, except maybe Hyypia. I was was shocked but delighted when he was sacked. If that makes me a bad fan, then so be it

Nailed it

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

This, it annoys me when the Cardiff and Bmuff games are used for a stick to beat him with, the double over Palace, the FA cup semi final they all happened in the same season yet hardly mentioned. Towards the end we were dross but when you look at the line ups it really wasn’t a surprise.

Yes, me too....

The whole lucky wins as well. There is nothing wrong with a team that defends, it served Italian football quite well, won Arsenal championships. Ultimately you get what you deserve.

We were poor towards the end, but we weren’t earlier in the season.


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[Justice]

Stat or the day: PL managers on average have 91 games at their respective clubs before moving on or sacked.

 

[vagabond]

Stat or the day: PL managers on average have 91 games at their respective clubs before moving on or sacked.

Hence the appointment of Dan Ashworth.