[Albion] crystal palace fans have lodged an official complaint against Sussex Police

[Leighgull]

I thought that obscuring your identity and engaging in threatening behavior were frowned on by the law..what was all that face scarfery about?

 

[chaileyjem]

its worth reading the complaint letter in full. It does acknowledge the misbehaviour by their fans. (the forced entry, pyros, ultras)

but there is a long list of other issues that are relevant to all fans especially innocent ones with no intention of causing trouble. (kettling, refused entry even with tickets, delays, forced onto wrong trains, safety issues, missing kick off)
Especially given Brighton fans likely similar treatment on Saturday.
http://www.fsf.org.uk/assets/Downlo...laint-Letter-Sussex-Police-Apr-2018-Final.pdf

 

[chaileyjem]

Will make sure ive emptied the bladder before we are kettled outside smellhurst. Can see us being kept outside for a long time before being marched back to Norwood Jct.

The special train back south is 5.57 from Norwood Junction so guess there'll be a c45 min delay at least.

 

[chaileyjem]

Coincidentally the news released in the days prior to our game at S..thurst.

Not coincidentally at all. Its deliberately published now to amplify press interest.

 

[nicko31]

always the victims it’s never their fault... Let’s get this song going on saturday lads

bring it on

 

[bhanutz]

I thought that obscuring your identity and engaging in threatening behavior were frowned on by the law..what was all that face scarfery about?

It never happened.... I am amazed they haven't insinuated it was under cover Sussex Police officers that stormed the gates and injured the stewards!! #Alwaysthevictims

 

[Wilko]

its worth reading the complaint letter in full. It does acknowledge the misbehaviour by their fans. (the forced entry, pyros, ultras)

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Then their anger should be directed to their fans that ruined it for them. The fact remains that if their fans were well behaved then there would have been no issues with the police.

 

[Taybha]

 

[Wilko]

We came to cause trouble, we dressed in black, we had pyrotechnics, we stormed the gates and then the police were heavy handed with us. It isn't fair.

 

[Leighgull]

I don't think that military grade flares being set off in a stand full of plastic seats is particularly clever.

I imagine that the flames, stink and animal grunting reminded them of home.

 

[hoveboyslim]

From the letter -

"The first CPFC fans who were subjected to police control arrived in Brighton
around 1pm. The 30 or so fans were informed that many pubs around the station
would not accept them and were taken to the Bright Helm Wetherspoons pub on
West Street; however, the staff refused them entry. The officers then took the
group ‘Buddies Bar’ on the seafront. The atmosphere was not aggressive from
the CPFC fans or coercive from the police. It could be said that the presence of
the CPFC fans at this stage was being facilitated by the officers. That said
officers from, or under the direction and control of, Sussex Police were stationed
outside the bar filming on a fairly constant basis.
4. Some of those in the group had tickets and some of those did not. CPFC were
showing the game on big screens at Selhurst Park (a so called ‘Beam Back’) and
a number intended to head back to London before kick off. As you will know it is
about an hour journey from Brighton to Norwood Junction so there was more than
enough time to get there for kick off"

If this is to be believed, then what a bizarre thing to do. Go to the town where the opposition football team are based [the team that you despise], to go for a drink in pubs you are highly unlikely to be welcome in, and then go back to your own football ground to watch the match! A round trip of approximately 90 miles.

Where did they get that idea from? The Orangemen of Northern Ireland?


What absolute horseshit

 

[Easy 10]

Fvckwittery on a truly industrial scale. Why would you head directly into the town centre pre-match, when you KNOW you're going to get escorted to the shittiest pubs, and then kettled. No choice where you go. No choice when you leave. Herded in and herded out, at the behest of Sussex Police. That is weapons grade buffoonery.

If I was going to Selhurst Park on Saturday, the last place on EARTH I would go for a pre-match session is anywhere within 5 miles of that tragic griefhole. The police hardly covered themselves in glory that night, but if Palace weren't such a bunch of moronic thickets, all this grief would've been easily avoidable.

 

[Stat Brother]

Fvckwittery on a truly industrial scale. Why would you head directly into the town centre pre-match, when you KNOW you're going to get escorted to the shittiest pubs, and then kettled. No choice where you go. No choice when you leave. Herded in and herded out, at the behest of Sussex Police. That is weapons grade buffoonery.

If I was going to Selhurst Park on Saturday, the last place on EARTH I would go for a pre-match session is anywhere within 5 miles of that tragic griefhole. The police hardly covered themselves in glory that night, but if Palace weren't such a bunch of moronic thickets, all this grief would've been easily avoidable.

It shows the difference between Brighton and Croydon...




...People want to go to Brighton.

 

[Easy 10]

From the letter -

"The first CPFC fans who were subjected to police control arrived in Brighton
around 1pm. The 30 or so fans were informed that many pubs around the station
would not accept them and were taken to the Bright Helm Wetherspoons pub on
West Street; however, the staff refused them entry. The officers then took the
group ‘Buddies Bar’ on the seafront. The atmosphere was not aggressive from
the CPFC fans or coercive from the police. It could be said that the presence of
the CPFC fans at this stage was being facilitated by the officers. That said
officers from, or under the direction and control of, Sussex Police were stationed
outside the bar filming on a fairly constant basis.
4. Some of those in the group had tickets and some of those did not. CPFC were
showing the game on big screens at Selhurst Park (a so called ‘Beam Back’) and
a number intended to head back to London before kick off. As you will know it is
about an hour journey from Brighton to Norwood Junction so there was more than
enough time to get there for kick off"

If this is to be believed, then what a bizarre thing to do. Go to the town where the opposition football team are based [the team that you despise], to go for a drink in pubs you are highly unlikely to be welcome in, and then go back to your own football ground to watch the match! A round trip of approximately 90 miles.

Where did they get that idea from? The Orangemen of Northern Ireland?


What absolute horseshit

Agreed.

Are we REALLY expected to believe that these "ticketless fans" were merely the ones who had Selhurst Park beamback tickets, and yomped all the way down to Brighton for a few beers in the kettle zone, before trying to get on a train back up to Selhurst for the game.

Laughable.

 

[Tekanne]

Know for a fact that a lot of the Palace 'ultras' live in Brighton

 

[Quinney]

Whilst I agree that the Palace fans have a lot to answer for regarding storming the gates and forcing their way into the Amex, I do think that there are legitimate questions regarding the policing on the day. I’m going Saturday and have no intention of drinking anywhere near Selhurst. Why Palace Ultras felt the need to come to Brighton and not expect trouble/hassle I don’t know, but having said that, the policing of them from town to Amex does sound like a balls up. Clearly the statements from police post match were also a mistake and caused further angst. If it were the other way round I’m pretty sure we’d want some answers.


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[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

“There has never been a public explanation for the source of the incorrect information promulgated by Supt. Nelson both in the press release and then in his tweets,” CPST said.

"what's up Bazza. You aint neckin ya Stella like you usually do on a Tuesday"
"I can't Dave. I'm fuming mate. Have you seen twitter? That Brighton copper is mugging us right off mate. He's only gone n promulgated shit about us."

 

[Stat Brother]

Odd how we're had more replies from Spurs fans than our resident pet palace trolls.

I'm only ever going to say this once, but there's the possibility I might actually be interested in their interpretation of this move.

 

[Originunknown]

"what's up Bazza. You aint neckin ya Stella like you usually do on a Tuesday"
"I can't Dave. I'm fuming mate. Have you seen twitter? That Brighton copper is mugging us right off mate. He's only gone n promulgated shit about us."

Hahaha

 

[Ernest]

How many going to Croydon on Saturday for a few pints before heading to Falmer to watch the beam back