Crime watch = spot the whiteman

[Raleigh Chopper]

Is it the Wests fault?

No.
Fred and Rose carried out some awful crimes but you can't blame them for that.

 

[Fungus]

Wanted Faces? I wouldn't want one like any of those.

 

[GreersElbow]

People from poor and troubled backgrounds are more likely to commit crimes.

It's a wealth problem, not one of race or nationality.

Yes and no, I think there is a degree and it's difficult to say all crimes are because of economic determinism. If someone nicks a loaf of bread to feed a family, then economic determinism is a valid argument. If someone kicks in someone's head in because they were bored, that is not because of their background.

There has to be a degree of rationality involved for economic determinism to be valid.

 

[cunning fergus]

Oh no! Don't go bringing facts into the discussion, you'll only confuse things

The ministry of justice facts are that 14% of the prison population is foreign having doubled in last 10 years.

Of the British nationals inside 21% are from an ethnic minority, albeit how many of these are new British citizens is not clear, those who have taken citizenship would come off the foreign balance sheet and be credited to the British national population.

That relatively new citizenship policy of our Government can make accuracy in this area quite confusing can't it?

It's almost like they are trying to hide something, I can't quite put my finger on it.........

 

[jimbob5]

Sutcliffe, West, Crippin and the Crays were British for sure but face it, they are a needle in a haystack of miscreant activity on the part of Jonny Foreigners on these fine shores. God bless the Queen. If she had her way these crooks would all be beheaded but modern life is complex I realise that. For example you have to consider the rights of coloureds, poofs and chicks. I recognise that being an enlightened modern man.

 

[AlbionPics&SouthCoastTwit]

Wouldn't happen in Germany

Yes, Deutschland has done so well in treating religious and ethnic minorities fairly.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

People from poor and troubled backgrounds are more likely to commit crimes.

It's a wealth problem, not one of race or nationality.

Well it is a wealth problem but not what you are suggesting.
There is far more greed, fraud, theft, corruption and downright skullduggery at the higher echelons of society than lower down the scale. Our whole financial system is riddled with criminal activity on a massive scale.The political world is scarred by the most corrupt body to ever exist ( the EU ) and the legal world relies on deception to make millions. In other walks of life, heads of governing bodies feather their already sumptuous nests with huge backhanders whilst certain political leaders carry out heinous crimes whilst bankrupting their own people at the same time.
To suggest that the disadvantaged carry out the majority of crime is greatly disrespectful to millions of people who carry out their lives with honesty and dignity and as law abiding citizens. Power corrupts and those feeding at the top end of the trough just get more powerful, more wealthy, whilst riding roughshod over the rest of us.
Study history. Its always been like this. Except now its worse. There is a massive divide and its getting wider. People trot out out this stereotypical garbage about the downtrodden blacks and the white underclass. Its all rubbish. Open your eyes and see where the real crime is.
They are laughing at us while they rip us off and we just all sit back and let it happen.

 

[Dave the OAP]

To be fair, that Hassan bloke looks like he would make a decent striker. Get him in hewghton

 

[Captain Sensible]

Well it is a wealth problem but not what you are suggesting.
There is far more greed, fraud, theft, corruption and downright skullduggery at the higher echelons of society than lower down the scale. Our whole financial system is riddled with criminal activity on a massive scale.The political world is scarred by the most corrupt body to ever exist ( the EU ) and the legal world relies on deception to make millions. In other walks of life, heads of governing bodies feather their already sumptuous nests with huge backhanders whilst certain political leaders carry out heinous crimes whilst bankrupting their own people at the same time.
To suggest that the disadvantaged carry out the majority of crime is greatly disrespectful to millions of people who carry out their lives with honesty and dignity and as law abiding citizens. Power corrupts and those feeding at the top end of the trough just get more powerful, more wealthy, whilst riding roughshod over the rest of us.
Study history. Its always been like this. Except now its worse. There is a massive divide and its getting wider. People trot out out this stereotypical garbage about the downtrodden blacks and the white underclass. Its all rubbish. Open your eyes and see where the real crime is.
They are laughing at us while they rip us off and we just all sit back and let it happen.

I do agree apart from that top bosses and directors would be ripping us all off a lot more when they are unrestricted outside of the EU.

 

[brightn'ove]

Yes and no, I think there is a degree and it's difficult to say all crimes are because of economic determinism. If someone nicks a loaf of bread to feed a family, then economic determinism is a valid argument. If someone kicks in someone's head in because they were bored, that is not because of their background.

There has to be a degree of rationality involved for economic determinism to be valid.

You write that like its fact but it's not, it's just another opinion. He isn't specifically talking about economically determined crimes, he's talking about behaviour as a consequence of economic circumstance. If all one knows is how to steal, fight and harm, that is what they are most likely to carry on doing.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

You write that like its fact but it's not, it's just another opinion. He isn't specifically talking about economically determined crimes, he's talking about behaviour as a consequence of economic circumstance. If all one knows is how to steal, fight and harm, that is what they are most likely to carry on doing.

Are you suggesting all crime is because of someone being poor ?

 

[Return of the Rev]

I saw an elephant in the room

 

[brightn'ove]

Are you suggesting all crime is because of someone being poor ?

No. Just explaining what (i think) mustafa meant. He wasn't talking about stealing bread to feed your children. You'd have to be an idiot to think that all crime is due to circumstance.

 

[Dave the OAP]

Judging by the some of the comments a few months ago about " grasses", do I take it that if anyone knows these gentlemen, and takes it upon him/ herself to ring the filth and dob them in, are they grasses or a concerned citizen?

I never understand this term grass!

 

[narly101]

Judging by the some of the comments a few months ago about " grasses", do I take it that if anyone knows these gentlemen, and takes it upon him/ herself to ring the filth and dob them in, are they grasses or a concerned citizen?

I never understand this term grass!

I would say concerned citizen.

 

[GreersElbow]

You write that like its fact but it's not, it's just another opinion. He isn't specifically talking about economically determined crimes, he's talking about behaviour as a consequence of economic circumstance.

So he's talking about people who commit crime because of economic consequences?
Which is economic determinism. I used to the theft of food as an example. That is very clear.

But continue.

 

[GT49er]

I would say concerned citizen.

I would say deceased (soon)!

 

[Codner pharmaceuticals]

Disregarding the lazy generalisation, a curious episode to pick your view of how crime pans out.

Is this the wanted list of our scouting team?

North looks like he could fill the LB role and Humpage could be the big lad we need to bully defences and allow Baldock to score freely.

I plan to get Humpage put on my new shirt tomorrow.

 

[brightn'ove]

So he's talking about people who commit crime because of economic consequences?
Which is economic determinism. I used to the theft of food as an example. That is very clear.

But continue.

I mostly disagreed with this part

There has to be a degree of rationality involved for economic determinism to be valid.

Crimes can be irrational but still be caused (however indirectly) by economic circumstance.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

People from poor and troubled backgrounds are more likely to commit crimes.

It's a wealth problem, not one of race or nationality.

What a load of socialist b.s..

So are you claiming that the poorer people in the country are morally and socially corrupt and the richer you become, the more responsiblilty you take over your actions?

Or do those who commit crime look for a way to justify there actions by using rubbish explanations like this?