Craft Lager

[Peter Grummit]

Charming. You'll be getting a small can of Fosters should you ever visit my ivory tower.

Seems unlikely. Would mean you'd have to buy some first: someone might see you.

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[portslade seagull]

For some companies for sure. But proper craft beers do cost more to manufacture do to the time the take to make and premium, or more, ingredients and simple economy of scale.

According to my Harvey's mate most craft beers are full of citrus because it's cheaper to make then. Must admit I'm not keen on them

 

[big nuts]

According to my Harvey's mate most craft beers are full of citrus because it's cheaper to make then. Must admit I'm not keen on them

Harvey's would say that, they are desperate to crack the craft/IPA market, but are yet to produce a product that gives the craft market a run for their money.

 

[portslade seagull]

Harvey's would say that, they are desperate to crack the craft/IPA market, but are yet to produce a product that gives the craft market a run for their money.

Believe me they are doing very well and don't need that

 

[big nuts]

Believe me they are doing very well and don't need that

I don't dispute they are doing well. But their attempts at IPA's and the like are incredibly dull and bland next to the craft offerings.

Harvey's will always sell well, they have a loyal customer base and run decent pubs. But they know the craft beer market is lucrative, they just haven't found the recipe for success yet.

Longman brewery & Dark Star do far superior pale ale's to Harvey's in my opinion.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

If the beer is conditioned and matured with the usual yeasts and this is all done at cold temperatures then Lager is just a generic name for it. Many German/Austrian/Czech style beers brew totally different styles that actually taste of something but still just about come under the lager title. Lager only means storage/warehouse in German at the end of the day.

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Not really correct, here's a better explanation http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-01/beersci-what-difference-between-lager-and-ale#page-2

 

[Questions]

Not really correct, here's a better explanation http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-01/beersci-what-difference-between-lager-and-ale#page-2

That was a very basic explanation as to top fermented 'lagers' and other styles which can be bottom fermented beers such as Altbier and some Bocks and Swarzbeers (sp) but still put in the lager category. Its wasn't supposed to be a Michael Jackson definitive book on the subject ...jeez.
Anyway one of the reasons 'lagers', although I think Pilsners would be a better description became more popular is that they didn't spoil as often as top fermenting beers.

I have read through your link and can't actually see where I am 'not really correct'

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

That was a very basic explanation as to top fermented 'lagers' and other styles which can be bottom fermented beers such as Altbier and some Bocks and Swarzbeers (sp) but still put in the lager category. Its wasn't supposed to be a Michael Jackson definitive book on the subject ...jeez.
Anyway one of the reasons 'lagers', although I think Pilsners would be a better description became more popular is that they didn't spoil as often as top fermenting beers.

Sorry.......Just my area of knowledge.

Since leaving aircraft engineering and owning 4 pubs, I now work for a major brewer on the technical side.

 

[Questions]

Sorry.......Just my area of knowledge.

Since leaving aircraft engineering and owning 4 pubs, I now work for a major brewer on the technical side.

Why are you sorry. It's only a chit chat on the production of beer. My area of knowledge as well - I drink copious amounts of the stuff and after the Albion my passion I guess.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Why are you sorry. It's only a chit chat on the production of beer. My area of knowledge as well - I drink copious amounts of the stuff and after the Albion my passion I guess.

we're looking for people come and join us.

 

[Questions]

we're looking for people come and join us.

There were a few of us who did consider starting up on a small scale but after drinking some of Oakhams Citras and Bishops Farewells and Mark Tranters La Provision Saison at Burning Sky we sort of thought we would be so far behind that maybe we were too old for it all. I do love the beer scene now though PMan and apart from the piss taking going on in some of the pubs that stock Craft ales things have never been better.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Just back from a short holiday in Stockholm.

Lager of choice something called 'Pistonhead Kustom Lager'. Cheap as chips from the state offy, in 330ml cans and really, really good.

http://www.pistonheadlager.com/

KUSTOM LAGER. Pistonhead Kustom Lager is Kustom brewed with a double-clutch of Münchener and Pilsner malt injected with Spalter Select, Magnum and Perle hops that will leave a hint of bitterness on your lips, but never in your heart.

Color: Medium Gold
Aroma: Malty fragrance with hints of syrup loaf
Taste: A very rich, malty flavor with a balanced and marked bitterness
Hops: Magnum, Spalter Select and Perle
Malts: Pilsner and Münchener
Original gravity P: 10,6 Residual sugar wt %: 2,0 %
Color EBC: 10
Hop Bitterness EBU: 27
Alcohol 4,6%

Apparently available in UK too, and well worth a try.

A second Pistonhead brew, 'Flat Tire' not to my liking - tasted too strongly of grapefruit.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Just back from a short holiday in Stockholm.

Lager of choice something called 'Pistonhead Kustom Lager'. Cheap as chips from the state offy, in 330ml cans and really, really good.

http://www.pistonheadlager.com/

Apparently available in UK too, and well worth a try.

A second Pistonhead brew, 'Flat Tire' not to my liking - tasted too strongly of grapefruit.

They sell Pistonhead in Asda.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

They sell Pistonhead in Asda.

Cheers

I'll dig out my HAMZAT suit and venture up there.

 

[whitelion]

Cheers

I'll dig out my HAMZAT suit and venture up there.

You'll have the terrorist police after you.

 

[Aveacarlin']

I appreciate that Hop House 13 probably doesn't qualify as it's brewed by Guinness, but on draft it's a decent hoppy pint imho, and I say that as someone who would never typically drink lager, preferring craft ale.

I tried HH13 in The Cricks, Hove. Loved it. I used to scoff at all these craft beers as being poncey without actually trying one. I love Punk IPA too. Much more taste than ya standard lagers. I'm a changed man

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[Bry Nylon]

Just back from a short holiday in Stockholm.

Lager of choice something called 'Pistonhead Kustom Lager'. Cheap as chips from the state offy

I'll look out for that. I travel to Sweden upwards of 3 to 4 times a year and the price of beer is so eyewateringly steep that you need to get pissed just to forget about it.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I'll look out for that. I travel to Sweden upwards of 3 to 4 times a year and the price of beer is so eyewateringly steep that you need to get pissed just to forget about it.

I was in Stockholm a month ago and went here; check out http://www.omnipolloshatt.com for some cutting edge and experimental craft.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I tried HH13 in The Cricks, Hove. Loved it. I used to scoff at all these craft beers as being poncey without actually trying one. I love Punk IPA too. Much more taste than ya standard lagers. I'm a changed man ��

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[butchy]

Truman's have some decent drops.....Truman's Lazarus is frankly delicious at the moment