[News] COP 28

[Zeberdi]

COP 28 starts today - Is it all ‘Blah, Blah, Blah’ as Greta Grunberg says or will steps be made?

COP26: Greta Thunberg gets crowds outside COP26 fired up with chants of 'blah blah blah'

Greta Thunberg gives a speech to climate protesters as COP26 commences with chants of 'blah blah blah' and 'we want climate justice'. She also criticises politicians attending COP saying 'that is not leadership'.

news.sky.com

live videos of conference

COP28 UAE - United Nations Climate Change Conference

COP28 will convene in the UAE in November 2023. COP28 UAE brings the world together at a critical moment for global transformative climate action.

www.cop28.com

About COP28 - Welcome Message - COP28 UAE

Learn about COP28 and explore the UAE's pivotal role in advancing climate progress, fostering consensus, and driving green technology on a global scale.

www.cop28.com

Where next for CC protest if the formal channels are not achieving change fast enough?

 

[schmunk]

Is this still Eddie Murphy, or a new cast?

 

[Zeberdi]

Is this still Eddie Murphy, or a new cast?

What does Eddie Murphy have to do with the COP28?

 

[schmunk]

What does Eddie Murphy have to do with the COP28?

OK, I get it - it's a new cast.

 

[Zeberdi]

OK, I get it - it's a new cast.

I still am failing to see the connection here or the point you are trying to make You’ll have to explain please, I’m being a bit dense I suspect

Edit: The penny’s dropped - I was indeed being dense (although in my defence, not the sort of film that’s on my radar)

Very funny @schmunk

 

[BluesRockDJ]

Our King, Sunak and "Lord" Cameron have all decided to take seperate private jets.......crisis ? What crisis ?

 

[Crispy Ambulance]

Our King, Sunak and Lord Cameron have all decided to take seperate private jets.......crisis ? What crisis ?

Are Supertramp going to be there as well?

 

[BrightonCottager]

Thanks for starting the thread, @Zeberdi . As someone whose professional life (or the last 20 years of it, at least) has been dominated by climate change, I'm not optimistic about UAE's presidency (given that they've also been trying to sign oil and gas deals with some of the participants) nor getting back on track to limiting temperature rises to 1.5 or 2°.

What HAS to happen is that rich countries commit resources to help poor countries to adapt to climate change. It is our moral obligation - we caused and continue to cause the majority of anthropogenic climate change. On a less savoury and more pragmatic level, its us who will face pressure from climate-driven migration.
More resources:

House of Commons Library briefing

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Our King, Sunak and "Lord" Cameron have all decided to take seperate private jets.......crisis ? What crisis ?

Classic do what we say and not what we do behaviour.

Still, UAE are taking the chance to talk about new oil deals as well.

 

[junior]

I went to COP26 in Scotland and really enjoyed it.

 

[The Clamp]

Another beano at the taxpayers expense. Total swizz.

 

[Springal]

I’m in Dubai at the moment and the irony is the constant traffic of helicopters from the palm today( with the nice hotels) to the mainland for the conference, rather than a 20-30min car journey or even better getting the Metro…

 

[Bakero]

12 posts on and nobody has said "what about China and India?" yet. I'm impressed.

 

[rippleman]

Like the previous 27 it will be all "blah, blah, blah".

70K delegates (and presumably more hangers-on) flying in from all around the world and yet nobody seems to detect the irony in that.

Can none of them use Zoom?

 

[schmunk]

12 posts on and nobody has said "what about China and India?" yet. I'm impressed.

Blimey, did it really only take 13 posts for some idiot to mention China and India...?

 

[BrightonCottager]

The £300m pledged for adaptation for poor countries is enough to build roughly 30km of seawall (at £10k /m). Bangladesh has a coastline of 580km.

 

[nicko31]

Blimey, did it really only take 13 posts for some idiot to mention China and India...?

Interesting stat...

At the end of last year the US had 110GW of solar capacity. First 9 months of 2023 China added 128GW of solar. They are over 50% renewables on their grid now...

Chinese PV Industry Brief: China hits 525 GW of cumulative solar capacity

China deployed 128.94 GW of new solar power in the first nine months of 2023, with 15.78 GW added in September, bringing its cumulative capacity to 525 GW, according to the National Energy Administration (NEA).

www.pv-magazine.com

 

[nicko31]

Well this is going well …

COP28 head says there is 'no science' to suggest phasing out fossil fuels is the only way to achieve key climate target

It is the latest controversy to hit the summit's president Sultan al Jaber. He recently denied allegations that the UAE wanted to use the summit to strike new oil and gas deals.

news.sky.com

The sooner we destroy the demand for hydrocarbons, the sooner the price will collapse and make extraction uneconomic. Beggars belief COP should be held in a place like the UAE.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Interesting stat...

At the end of last year the US had 110GW of solar capacity. First 9 months of 2023 China added 128GW of solar. They are over 50% renewables on their grid now...

Chinese PV Industry Brief: China hits 525 GW of cumulative solar capacity

China deployed 128.94 GW of new solar power in the first nine months of 2023, with 15.78 GW added in September, bringing its cumulative capacity to 525 GW, according to the National Energy Administration (NEA).

www.pv-magazine.com

Yet are building more and more of these.

China continues coal spree despite climate goals | China | The Guardian

World’s biggest carbon emitter approving equivalent of two new coal plants a week, analysis shows

amp.theguardian.com

It would be unlike China to lie about something

 

[nicko31]

Yet are building more and more of these.

China continues coal spree despite climate goals | China | The Guardian

World’s biggest carbon emitter approving equivalent of two new coal plants a week, analysis shows

amp.theguardian.com

It would be unlike China to lie about something

With China you never know, they claim to have sold 5M EV last year, around 7 times more than the US.

What is evident is China's qty of scale is providing us with what we need to strive to net zero and costs of many products are falling rapidly.