Confident with DK at the helm?...

[Cocksucker Blue]

crap

 

[cjdavis]

I have always felt very uncomfortable with Kinght after he stated that no one man will ever have control of this club again, but then proceeded to make all the decisions that affect the playing side on his own.

Also M Perry. What people quite often forget is that Martin Perry was not a supporter of Brighton and he has not invested any money into the club, he was and is employed to do a job. A job which before the "liberal wanker" did not exist. The day to day business was done by the club secretary. We now have both so apart from stadium issues, which can not take up every day all day Perry should be running the club. This should be accessing all aspects of the business and the playing side should be focused just the same as anything else. It is after all the product that the business produces. With this in mind last year, forcasts would have shown that if the product was losing ground in its sector then to stop the slide investment would be needed. This did not happen and not only did revenue go down by direct sales but also indirect such as advertising etc. The potential of the business is now serverely damaged. As a cheif executive of a business you could say Perry has failed in his duty to instruct the board on a course of action to avoid this loss.

Now there's people that will say this is bollocks but business is business whether its making baked beans or running a football club either way the chairman are normally just spokesmen for the board and in the background the chief exec. is running the business.

Many on here praise Perry for the work he has put into falmer but if you look at what he has succeeded in doing, it paints a somewhat different picture. Seven years on no planning for a new stadium (for whatever reason), club losing more money, lower season ticket sales, drop in overall attendances, lower standard on the playing staff, no new real investment.

Now he may have his hands tied by Knight but you never hear Perry talk about anything other than Falmer, why not?

I'm not running Perry down but would like to try and put a different angle on how this club is run. Knight is coming under more and more critisism on his running of the club and perhaps we should be questioning just how the club is run and who makes the decisions.

There are going to be people like me who will continue to support the club. Up to this year I had a season ticket for around 30 years but have now moved 170 miles away so i'm going to as many games as my new life/business allows. I've seen 5 games so far and watched todays on TV, I have to say we look completely lost. No direction, no passion, no effort.

The sparkle has gone from the club. The lastest news from the club doesn't appear to get the fans going anymore. Staduim news is now flat. Remember us all having champers celebrating, which now proves to be a very premature, planning decision. The spin has gone. Many fans are now resigned to bad news. This reflects the mood of the club. Slowly this chips away at the fabric until nothing is left. If we get the Falmer decision I for one am still not convinced with the present set up we will be able to build it.

Investment in the team apparently will come when the go-ahead is announced, but the stadium will still be some three years away. Another three years of treading water. People are fickle they will not wait. We could in all honesty be the first Conference club to have a 20,000 all seater stadium.

Knight saying that mid-table position is all we can hope for is demoralising. Some would say realistic but it does not bring optimism which encourages new and old fans alike to come to games.

It may sound all very defeatist but iIwe can not change the way forwards, only the board with the courage to invest or the Knight era could end up being remembered for a false dawn .I sincerely hope not!

Agree with your post 100%

 

[Theatre of Trees]

Point is how many other boards of clubs are having to fight an opponent who are desperately trying to put them out of business?

People came here first of all because we could promise a bright rosy future but that is no longer case because of long standing legal battle and all we can see in the future is more last ditch attempts by LDC to delay any decision because that is the way they think we can be defeated. To be honest I bet they are loving reading this board at the moment, the more infighting there is, the more destabilising the effect on the club becomes.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Point is how many other boards of clubs are having to fight an opponent who are desperately trying to put them out of business?

People came here first of all because we could promise a bright rosy future but that is no longer case because of long standing legal battle and all we can see in the future is more last ditch attempts by LDC to delay any decision because that is the way they think we can be defeated. To be honest I bet they are loving reading this board at the moment, the more infighting there is, the more destabilising the effect on the club becomes.

Whats destabilising the club at the moment is the playing side its got f*** all to do with infighting. If we were top of our league playing good football there would be very little unrest. As we are not and fans are beginning to question the club you believe thats playing into their pockets.

Dick Knight helped to save this club, no one can or will take that away from him. But and its a very big but it does not make him a great chairman. Since he has been chairman many of his decisions have been questionable and we have the right to ask those questions.

He may have run a successful business before but one would imagine running a football club is something that he found very different.

 

[bullshit detector]

No confidence 25%?
Amnesia?

 

[The Large One]

Confidence rating of 4.3 at present.

There are some extreme short-termists here.

 

[Goring Gull]

Confidence rating of 4.3 at present.

There are some extreme short-termists here.

Ok i agree with you that people do appear to be thinking short term.

In all honesty though even if Flamer is granted, which i'm sure it wil eventually but by the time it is finished, what sort of state will the club playing wise be in? Yes it's easy to panic after recent results but it's not just results that are worrying the performances are dreadful as well - Many really struggle to see long term when short term league 2 is beckoning.

Also i understand that NSC is only a small percentage of Albion fans but relatively the overall feeling must be similar if not as extreme across the board.

All in all a pretty pucture it does not make.

 

[cjdavis]

Confidence rating of 4.3 at present.

There are some extreme short-termists here.

in all fairness, a few years ago, I,d have given a 10 .....but too much focus has been put on Falmer, and the playing side has been ignored.....I knowwe,ve had three promotions in what ? six years.....but right now, they,ve been made almost pointless, due to lack of investment. I,d like to see a new chairman, and new investment, which might be possible if Dick stood aside. Would be a good idea, if Dick was given responsibility for Falmer alone....I accept that he and Martin Perry know more about this than anybody else.

 

[beorhthelm]

i trust Knight to have the best interests of the club at heart, but he has demonstrated in the last 18 mth or so that he doesnt have the pockets to carry the playing side. his reluctance to (apparently) allow money in at the expense of some control is becoming a bit of a worry, and for a PR man he has been found wanting in front of goal so to speak

 

[The Large One]

It's not pretty, and it is concerning. But having no faith in Dick Knight is ultimately counter-productive purely because there is no-one else prepared to take over the reins - at least no-one I would be happy with.

But it's like with most things to do with the Albion, we must all have a scapegoat, and today it's Dick Knight. What bugs me is the fact that the fans have not really played their part this season, and yet are happy to paste the blame just about everywhere else without looking at themselves. I feel we must ALL take responsibility for the current plight.

I am one of those fans who is not going to sit back to wait to be entertained. I like to think I am pro-active enough that I will do whatever I can to help the club, even if it means a level of personal time and disruption which I will not get back. The problem is that kick-starting other people to do the same requires industrial-strength jump leads to fire people out of apathy. Asking them to actually do anything is another matter entirely. Very frustrating.

 

[Goring Gull]

DK is definitely coming in for some stick. I admit the thought of going to Withdean at the moment doesn't do much for me and for that reason and living 250 miles away i therfore can tak esome blame for not helping the club by attending home games - I've doen a few away this season Rotherham, Forest, Bristol City and befor etodau i was going to Scunthorpe next week - and probably still will once i calm down from todays rubbish and get behind the lads then Huddersfield and Bradford are on my doorstep so i'll do my bit in that respect.

As for investing in the club i don't have the cash or know anyone likely to have any either. If there was more i could do then i would but Falmer now is in someone elses hands after all the petitions etc.

I do fear though we may well have to start right from the bottom again.

 

[The Clown of Pevensey Bay]

Now he may have his hands tied by Knight but you never hear Perry talk about anything other than Falmer, why not?

Because he was employed to get us a new stadium -- an area in which he has proven expertise, that's why.

I'm not sure why you think all employees of the club have to support it. I've worked for several radio stations that I wouldn't dream of listening to from day to day.

Oh, and since you ask -- 9 for everything except "managerial appointments". In that category, he scores 4.

 

[The Large One]

Oh, and since you ask -- 9 for everything except "managerial appointments". In that category, he scores 4.

A short-termist '4', I'd say, on account of the fact he did manage to snare Brian Horton (a popular choice at the time), Micky Adams, Peter Taylor, Mark McGhee (no, really) and - eventually - Steve Coppell.

Although I would also say it's fair enough when you have to weigh that up against Jeff Wood (we were not in a position to get a decent manager at the time) and Martin Hinshelwood (blame Steve Coppell).

 

[Rookie]

8 for me think he could be a bit more open about the financial side of things, but apart from that what else is he meant to do?
How many of you on here would give a football club a million or so to splash on the transfer market??

 

[vulture]

Up until today i was a big fan now unsure

 

[Pevenseagull]

5


EVERYTHING gets a 5 from me


apart from my new friend Kirsty, who gets a 6

 

[BensGrandad]

I have always felt very uncomfortable with Kinght after he stated that no one man will ever have control of this club again, but then proceeded to make all the decisions that affect the playing side on his own.

Also M Perry. What people quite often forget is that Martin Perry was not a supporter of Brighton and he has not invested any money into the club, he was and is employed to do a job. A job which before the "liberal wanker" did not exist. The day to day business was done by the club secretary. We now have both so apart from stadium issues, which can not take up every day all day Perry should be running the club. This should be accessing all aspects of the business and the playing side should be focused just the same as anything else. It is after all the product that the business produces. With this in mind last year, forcasts would have shown that if the product was losing ground in its sector then to stop the slide investment would be needed. This did not happen and not only did revenue go down by direct sales but also indirect such as advertising etc. The potential of the business is now serverely damaged. As a cheif executive of a business you could say Perry has failed in his duty to instruct the board on a course of action to avoid this loss.

Now there's people that will say this is bollocks but business is business whether its making baked beans or running a football club either way the chairman are normally just spokesmen for the board and in the background the chief exec. is running the business.

Many on here praise Perry for the work he has put into falmer but if you look at what he has succeeded in doing, it paints a somewhat different picture. Seven years on no planning for a new stadium (for whatever reason), club losing more money, lower season ticket sales, drop in overall attendances, lower standard on the playing staff, no new real investment.

Now he may have his hands tied by Knight but you never hear Perry talk about anything other than Falmer, why not?

I'm not running Perry down but would like to try and put a different angle on how this club is run. Knight is coming under more and more critisism on his running of the club and perhaps we should be questioning just how the club is run and who makes the decisions.

There are going to be people like me who will continue to support the club. Up to this year I had a season ticket for around 30 years but have now moved 170 miles away so i'm going to as many games as my new life/business allows. I've seen 5 games so far and watched todays on TV, I have to say we look completely lost. No direction, no passion, no effort.

The sparkle has gone from the club. The lastest news from the club doesn't appear to get the fans going anymore. Staduim news is now flat. Remember us all having champers celebrating, which now proves to be a very premature, planning decision. The spin has gone. Many fans are now resigned to bad news. This reflects the mood of the club. Slowly this chips away at the fabric until nothing is left. If we get the Falmer decision I for one am still not convinced with the present set up we will be able to build it.

Investment in the team apparently will come when the go-ahead is announced, but the stadium will still be some three years away. Another three years of treading water. People are fickle they will not wait. We could in all honesty be the first Conference club to have a 20,000 all seater stadium.

Knight saying that mid-table position is all we can hope for is demoralising. Some would say realistic but it does not bring optimism which encourages new and old fans alike to come to games.

It may sound all very defeatist but iIwe can not change the way forwards, only the board with the courage to invest or the Knight era could end up being remembered for a false dawn .I sincerely hope not!

Bellotti was brought into the club by Archer & Stanley for his council connections in the hope that he could use those to gain us a ground.

Dick Knight appointed Nick Rowe as Chief Executive to run the club but then outed him in favour of MP who was and is a specialist on stadiums. He was brought in specifically to gain Falmer.

One would assume that when we get Falmer or if permission is refused he will have done his job, either succesfully or otherwise and will move on.

The basis of your post is absolutely correct about the immediate future.