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The Auditor

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Sep 30, 2004
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As NSC seems to solve most of such issues.....

Have no backup facility and considering buying an external hard drive thingy....using windows XP internal hard disk 150Gb? 45% full...what should i be buying?
 








Cian

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Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
I bought a Freecom 400gb External Drive recently, about £80 I think.

It comes with back-up software and seems to be fine.

*awaitsdismantlingofcommentsbytechies*

:thumbsup:

No, fairly good choice actually. :thumbsup:

If they don't come with backup software you can just use NTBackup thats built in to (most versions of) Windows.
 


bhaexpress

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Jul 7, 2003
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Kent
No, fairly good choice actually. :thumbsup:

If they don't come with backup software you can just use NTBackup thats built in to (most versions of) Windows.

Of course you could just copy and paste to the USB drive and if you were really keen you could Ghost your hardrive (if you can blag a copy of Ghost of course).
 






REDLAND

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Jul 7, 2003
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As NSC seems to solve most of such issues.....

Have no backup facility and considering buying an external hard drive thingy....using windows XP internal hard disk 150Gb? 45% full...what should i be buying?

if your computer supports firewire, get a firewire drive, that way it won't take al day to do your backups :)
 


REDLAND

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REDLAND

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USB2 is faster than Firewire, Firewire drives do connect up to the PC faster, but theres no boost on the transfer speed.

My Macs firewire operates at 800mbs, thats TWICE as fast as USB 2 ..
 




Cian

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Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
My Macs firewire operates at 800mbs, thats TWICE as fast as USB 2 ..

Yes, but its also faster than the maximum throughput of a consumer grade hard drive, meaning its completely irrelevant. Theres no Firewire 800 hard drives. The maximum throughput of an external hard drive is about 60Mbytes a second, which is... 480Mbits a second, which is oddly enough the speed USB2 operates at, for a good reason.

Twice as fast as USB2 is 960Mbits, by the way, which isn't the 800Mbits of Firewire 800.

Faster hard drives exist, but consume too much power to be used in an external unit, at least not one powered by Firewire - and they all use eSATA connectors anyway.
 


REDLAND

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Yes, but its also faster than the maximum throughput of a consumer grade hard drive, meaning its completely irrelevant. Theres no Firewire 800 hard drives. The maximum throughput of an external hard drive is about 60Mbytes a second, which is... 480Mbits a second, which is oddly enough the speed USB2 operates at, for a good reason.

Twice as fast as USB2 is 960Mbits, by the way, which isn't the 800Mbits of Firewire 800.

Faster hard drives exist, but consume too much power to be used in an external unit, at least not one powered by Firewire - and they all use eSATA connectors anyway.

UTTER NONSENSE there are loads of Raid external drives that have transfer rates of 90Mbytes and above, my Le Cie has a transfer rate of 720Mbits
 


Cian

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Jul 16, 2003
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Dublin, Ireland
UTTER NONSENSE there are loads of Raid external drives that have transfer rates of 90Mbytes and above, my Le Cie has a transfer rate of 720Mbits

RAID = not one hard disk. A RAID is an array, as the "A" stands for, and are not considered consumer products.

You've been bullshitting and bullshitting all morning on IT related stuff, consider it might be time to give up for the day and go wank over your Mac again?
 




REDLAND

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RAID = not one hard disk. A RAID is an array, as the "A" stands for, and are not considered consumer products.

:D

thats the most idiotic thing you've said all day, but seeing as you've started insulting me, I will leave it there !!!
 


Cian

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Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
:D

thats the most idiotic thing you've said all day, but seeing as you've started insulting me, I will leave it there !!!

How is that idiotic? The idiocy here so far has been your simple maths errors, and claiming that extremely high end products are aimed at normal consumers.

Do you even know what "RAID" actually stands for? Or, indeed, why its very, very dangerous to use RAID-0 setups for backup - as all fast external RAID units are preconfigured as RAID-0.
 


Scoffers

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Jan 13, 2004
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Don't you just love techies ! Get a life fellas;
 








bhaexpress

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Jul 7, 2003
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:D

thats the most idiotic thing you've said all day, but seeing as you've started insulting me, I will leave it there !!!

When you've washed your hands might I say MYOB is quite correct about RAID. It stands for 'Redundant Array of Independent Drives'. Please note the 'S' on the last word.
 


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