[Misc] Climate Change Hypocrisy

[Tim Over Whelmed]

So Coldplay won't tour their new album for environmental reasons (although all profits could go towards planting trees or non-fossil fuel solutions for stadiums), but doesn't stop Chris Martin and his family flying half way around the World for a bit of Christmas fun ... FFS you can't care for the planet on occasional PR days, I bet he also had to sit on the plane floor as all the other seats were taken.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowb...x-Chris-Martin-girlfriend-Dakota-Johnson.html

Maybe it's me but these people ram it down your throat when they've got a good aspect to promote and then give it scant regard when it suits!

 

[Springal]

That is an hugely simplistic view. What is the carbon footprint of a band like U2 or Coldplay touring the world, with crew, stages etc etc.... vs the geezer going on holiday for the weekend? I don't think Chris Martin is saying we should all stop flying and travelling. Just the logistics involved of a huge band / show touring can be avoided.

 

[Milano]

I bet he wouldn’t hold this view if his band were just starting to become successful. Easy to spout this when you’re a multi-millionaire.

 

[Garage_Doors]

More annoyed that you start the post with so.

 

[A mex eyecan]

another one going the way as Saint Bono?

 

[A mex eyecan]

More annoyed that you start the post with so.

and More rather that I am

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

 

[Easy 10]

Lewis Hamilton has to be the most hilarious eco-warrior this year, preaching to all and sundry about adopting a "sustainable lifestyle". A cataclysmic lack of self-awareness.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

You've gotta be mad to go to a coldplay gig

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[Tim Over Whelmed]

That is an hugely simplistic view. What is the carbon footprint of a band like U2 or Coldplay touring the world, with crew, stages etc etc.... vs the geezer going on holiday for the weekend? I don't think Chris Martin is saying we should all stop flying and travelling. Just the logistics involved of a huge band / show touring can be avoided.

I don't disagree, it is a simplistic view. However I'd also say if you REALLY cared about the planet do the tour, use the profits to drive eco-changes, as I've flagged, by turning the stadiums into more sustainable venues and supporting research and or eco-activities. My take on this, simplistic as it is, is that if you really cared you wouldn't fly your family there and you'd walk the walk!

 

[Swansman]

Gretas boat trip was sponsored by BMW and they flew over the crew to get. The Dalai Lama got a Rolex watch. The leftist parties of Europe speak about bridging wealth gaps but do the opposite. Mourinho was implying he is no longer a **** but still is. The list is endless. Hypocrisy is one of the main traits in humans.

 

[Hastings gull]

Gretas boat trip was sponsored by BMW and they flew over the crew to get. The Dalai Lama got a Rolex watch. The leftist parties of Europe speak about bridging wealth gaps but do the opposite. Mourinho was implying he is no longer a **** but still is. The list is endless. Hypocrisy is one of the main traits in humans.

Yes, that is sadly the truth. Whilst we would probably all deny it, we are hypocritical to varying degrees - the sins of others are always worse. We are on a rat run for a local school, and the car that always parks so that they have the shortest possible walk is the one with the Extinction Rebellion sticker on the back . .

 

[Creaky]

I care about climate change and try not to waste resources. I’ve also flown this year. I don’t consider that makes me a hypocrite, at least I don’t consider myself one.

Caring about climate change isn’t a moral absolute in my opinion.

It is surely more hypocritical to criticise someone for doing something that you do yourself which is why I’m not going to have a go at someone who is only doing what I do myself - i.e. in this case criticising someone for going on holiday by air.

 

[portlock seagull]

Honestly the number of people that don’t get ‘Do as I say, not as I do...’

 

[Lower West Stander]

Chris Martin is so far up his own backside, he wouldn’t be able to see out of the plane anyway....


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[vegster]

Gretas boat trip was sponsored by BMW and they flew over the crew to get. The Dalai Lama got a Rolex watch. The leftist parties of Europe speak about bridging wealth gaps but do the opposite. Mourinho was implying he is no longer a **** but still is. The list is endless. Hypocrisy is one of the main traits in humans.

You never even got to Johnson !

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

The person I have no time for is the OP, who seems to know something about Chris Martin. What's that all about? Those who watch ITV have only themselves to blame

 

[Deleted member 2719]

So Coldplay won't tour their new album for environmental reasons (although all profits could go towards planting trees or non-fossil fuel solutions for stadiums), but doesn't stop Chris Martin and his family flying half way around the World for a bit of Christmas fun ... FFS you can't care for the planet on occasional PR days, I bet he also had to sit on the plane floor as all the other seats were taken.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowb...x-Chris-Martin-girlfriend-Dakota-Johnson.html

Maybe it's me but these people ram it down your throat when they've got a good aspect to promote and then give it scant regard when it suits!

There are too many people talking a good game out there, and it is right to expose them all.

You're either in or out, none of this shake it about, malarky.

More annoyed that you start the post with so.

So what.

 

[abc]

That is an hugely simplistic view. What is the carbon footprint of a band like U2 or Coldplay touring the world, with crew, stages etc etc.... vs the geezer going on holiday for the weekend? I don't think Chris Martin is saying we should all stop flying and travelling. Just the logistics involved of a huge band / show touring can be avoided.

I think the OP's point is contained in the word 'hypocrisy'. Wealthy celebrities love to preach and take virtuous 'look at me' stances as if they are the only people that care about whatever issue is their bag on a particular day, but their actions outside of their virtue signalling PR too often show them up as hypocrites. I am far more impressed with an ordinary person with an ordinary income that chooses to, say, plant a tree, cycle to work or turn down the heating. Not so dramatic and wont get a headline but actually requires more sacrifice.

(The exception to the celeb rule is Greta of course, who seems determined not to be a hypocrite and I respect her for this as much as anything she has achieved)

 

[Seasider78]

Coldplay have been sucking the life out of this planet for years so I would support any movement that makes them stop