CKR plays tonight for Turkey

[chez]

Thought CKR had a pretty good game, interesting comment about him wanting to come back to England though, wonder where he would go?

He did have a good game. I reckon he could get pissed off with them though. It seemed that even though he was the only Turkish (well sort of Turkish) player getting any joy he was rarely given the ball. Turkey seemed to want to go down the left wing every time and time & time again they were getting nowhere.

 

[KNC]

Thought the lad had a good game, spesh second half. I don't think McGee was the main prob here.

Knight (Leon) & Jarrett were terrible influences on him.

 

[Seasider]

With regards sell-on clause my understanding is if Sheef Utd made anymore money from him (i.e. they had a sell on clause(don't think they have)) then we would be entitled to some of that otherwise we get diddly squat.

 

[RM-Taylor]

With regards sell-on clause my understanding is if Sheef Utd made anymore money from him (i.e. they had a sell on clause(don't think they have)) then we would be entitled to some of that otherwise we get diddly squat.

So if they get more than £1,500,000 then we'd get something

 

[Seasider]

Ok - way i see it, if they have a sell on clause (don't think they do tho) of say 10% and he is sold for £10,000,000. Sheff Utd would get £1,000,000. If our original sell on clause was 25% we would get £250,000. Make any sense

 

[RM-Taylor]

Ok - way i see it, if they have a sell on clause (don't think they do tho) of say 10% and he is sold for £10,000,000. Sheff Utd would get £1,000,000. If our original sell on clause was 25% we would get £250,000. Make any sense

So do you mean we would get a percentage of their percentage

But if they don't have one we won't get anything

 

[Seasider]

Correct

 

[1066gull]

Think he will be magical next season for Fenerbache prompting a multi-million move to Italia.

Just goes to show what can happen if you put the effort in.

 

[pishhead]

We get nothing if CKR is sold on thats a fact in black and white. Thats like saying If Zamora got sold we would recieve a percentage.

 

[RM-Taylor]

Think he will be magical next season for Fenerbache prompting a multi-million move to Italia.

Just goes to show what can happen if you put the effort in.

He's been told by Zico that he can leave.

But hoping he puts in a few good performances during the EURO's so they can get a bit of money for him.

 

[Vankleek Hill Seagull]

He did have a good game. I reckon he could get pissed off with them though. It seemed that even though he was the only Turkish (well sort of Turkish) player getting any joy he was rarely given the ball. Turkey seemed to want to go down the left wing every time and time & time again they were getting nowhere.

Totally agree on that one. It's as if they didn't want to give him the ball.

 

[SULLY COULDNT SHOOT]

There are some really small-mindede people on here. I think you'll find that even at this tender age CKR is one of the most successful ex-Brighton players ever. Has played in a Champions League semi-final and European Championship. I think only Mark Lawrenson can match that.

We should be proud that the one season he spent with us helped shape him into the player he is... even if he doesn't dmit it. Correct me if I' worng (and on this I probaly am) wasn't all his criticism directed at McGhee, not the club?

I thought he was the best Turkish player on the field last night (in a very poor and tacticly-naive performance)and looked way better than I've seen him for some time. Fatih Terim (wanker that he is, mind) raves about him.

Hans mate, CKR is not Turkish because his mother is Turkish Cypriot, not Turkish. Otherwise Greek Cypriots would play for Greece. It is because of the strange political staus of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus that he can slip through the net. There's an advert on the TV here where all the mothers of the team get together , drink tea and talk about how good their sons are. CKR mother's Turkish is awful!

 

[Arthur]

There are some really small-mindede people on here. I think you'll find that even at this tender age CKR is one of the most successful ex-Brighton players ever. Has played in a Champions League semi-final and European Championship. I think only Mark Lawrenson can match that.

We should be proud that the one season he spent with us helped shape him into the player he is... even if he doesn't dmit it. Correct me if I' worng (and on this I probaly am) wasn't all his criticism directed at McGhee, not the club?

I thought he was the best Turkish player on the field last night (in a very poor and tacticly-naive performance)and looked way better than I've seen him for some time. Fatih Terim (wanker that he is, mind) raves about him.

Hans mate, CKR is not Turkish because his mother is Turkish Cypriot, not Turkish. Otherwise Greek Cypriots would play for Greece. It is because of the strange political staus of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus that he can slip through the net. There's an advert on the TV here where all the mothers of the team get together , drink tea and talk about how good their sons are. CKR mother's Turkish is awful!

Spot on that man.

CKR was clearly a fantastic player when he came to us, a little naive maybe, but a fantastic talent. He was a bigger and better player than the club at the time so who could blame him for wanting to go on and do bigger a better things?

Things didn't work out for him here for a number of reasons, I think his ambition/naivety was one of the reasons, I think McGhee being a berk another and Naylor stirring things up to sell papers (which is what he is paid to do) is another. In a different time things might have been very very different. But I certainly don't hold anything against the lad. He's gone on to prove he IS a great player and far better than any of the players we've turned out over recent years.

One thing that does puzzle me is Adams jumped ship at the first given opportunity to go on and to do "bigger and better" things and he is still hailed the messiah by some of you but CKR was ambitious and wanted to better himself and some of you think he is a wanker? I don't get it!

 

[Row Z Creased Shirt]

I think it's great that CKR has done so well for himself and his faith in his own abilities was obviously well founded.

However during his time at the Albion he never really did anything at all. I cannot think of one game that he dominated. We were sadly only offered glimpses of what he could do. I know that Jam the Man will disagree but I never got the impression that CKR wanted to be at the Albion at all. His eyes were always on the future and he was impatient to reach a higher level. That he did so with such success is great for him, but I do not feel we missed out when he left as we were never going to be enough for him.

I'm quite enjoying watching an ex-Albion player at an international tournament, I hope he has a good one, even if Turkey don't appear to be that good this year.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I remember the game at Worthing when McGhee told him he was sold. He got changed at half-time and was making his way round the side of the ground to leave, when a plaintive little voice piped up:

DK's little grandson: 'Colin! COLIN! Where are you GOING Colin?'

CKR: 'I'm going home mate'

Bless

 

[BensGrandad]

I remember the game at Worthing when McGhee told him he was sold. He got changed at half-time and was making his way round the side of the ground to leave, when a plaintive little voice piped up:

DK's little grandson: 'Colin! COLIN! Where are you GOING Colin?'

CKR: 'I'm going home mate'
Bless

At the same match he told Ben he was going to Sheff Utd but everybody ridiculed me when I said it on here.

I thought that he did the simple things well tonight and would think that a lower Premiership or upper Championship side will come in for him.

 

[SULLY COULDNT SHOOT]

At the same match he told Ben he was going to Sheff Utd but everybody ridiculed me when I said it on here.

I thought that he did the simple things well tonight and would think that a lower Premiership or upper Championship side will come in for him.

I'd agree with that but I'm not sure he'd take it or that Fenerbahce would agree. Fb will be looking at at least 5 mill for him because they rate him highly and I think CKR would like to continue getting Champions League football... don't you?.

 

[SULLY COULDNT SHOOT]

He's been told by Zico that he can leave.

But hoping he puts in a few good performances during the EURO's so they can get a bit of money for him.

Source for this..... absolutely nothing in Turkish papers about this.

 

[SULLY COULDNT SHOOT]

Totally agree on that one. It's as if they didn't want to give him the ball.

Not the case...... CKR was on the right but was not being played as a winger..... as proved last nşight and as we all know he can't cross. The 1-D tactic of Fatih 'I haven't got a clue' Terim was the ball to come in from the left and CKR to arrive late.

It was an entirely predictable tactic which the Portuguese cottoned on to pretty fast. The marked the injured Tuncay out of the game and blocked CKRs channels into the penalty area. He started getting more joy in the second half when he pushed up but then left the defence horribly exposed when Ronaldo switched to the left.

No probs in the team towards CKR. Just Fatih terim doesn't know what he's doing, Tuncay is injured, Emre is so short of match practice and Gokhan Zan makes Senderos look like Baresi! Zans awful mistake and subsequent injury was the turning point in the game as Turkey got panicky and while Terim dithered about the substitution Portugal went for the thoat. Turkey were still adjusting to the substitution when Portugal scored.

 

[Icy Gull]

. Correct me if I' worng (and on this I probaly am) wasn't all his criticism directed at McGhee, not the club?

I think it was the coaching staff and some of the players as well rather than just McGhee, but I don't want to let that get in the way of blaming McGhee for everything negative that happened to this club at around that time..