[News] Civil Service jobs

[vegster]

Correction, ALL governments are masters of spin, deflection, lies, etc

This latest one has taken it to a previously unimagined level though.

 

[The Clamp]

I totally get the trust factor, but all governments will spin to suit themselves. I never fully vote on honesty, I vote on many other factors.

“They’re all the same”

If you continue to unquestionably give this Tory government the benefit of the doubt either; you haven’t been listening or are a bit of a sucker. Either way, you’ll be shortchanged. But the upside for you is you likely won’t notice you’ve been conned.

It’s easier to trick someone than to convince them they’ve been tricked.

 

[The Clamp]

In most public sector scenarios - jobs are cut through ‘natural wastage’ - ie freezing any new recruitment and not filling posts which become vacant. Can cause some problems and will also require rationalisation later on, but usually there are no forced redundancies.

So will probably be less dramatic than this thread suggests.

You definitely haven’t been listening. It has been stated that this won’t be a recruitment freeze, jobs are to go and redundancies inevitable.

But facts, we don’t really need them do we? Nah!

 

[Marty___Mcfly]

You definitely haven’t been listening. It has been stated that this won’t be a recruitment freeze, jobs are to go and redundancies inevitable.

But facts, we don’t really need them do we? Nah!

I haven’t seen any confirmation that there will be redundancies. Is there a link to an article saying this? I imagine it’s all speculation at this stage.

They do sometimes use voluntary redundancies for those go wish to leave with a pay-off. Forced redundancies are too much hassle they will normally do anything they can to avoid them.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

They are obsessed with getting the civil servants back into the office.

What better way than to talk about job losses ?

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

No discussion is to be had with you as it would be sapping as you clearly have no respect for others.

As you may have seen I am prepared to fly the Europe flag, because they have understood at last the Brits and Boris are supporting Ukraine, it was never personal that we left them, we can work with them under our own rules.

God bless macron.

Oh my word. do you really believe that bollocks?

Boris used brexit to be PM. If he thought he could be PM by being a remainer then he would have done so. If he thought there was personal gain in cutting Ukraine loose he would have done so. A classless wanker.

You sir are a prize mug. Funny as ****.


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[Thunder Bolt]

I haven’t seen any confirmation that there will be redundancies. Is there a link to an article saying this? I imagine it’s all speculation at this stage.

They do sometimes use voluntary redundancies for those go wish to leave with a pay-off. Forced redundancies are too much hassle they will normally do anything they can to avoid them.

Seeing as quite a few were taken on to deal with Brexit, it’s possible they were on fixed term contracts. No sackings or redundancies.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Oh my word. do you really believe that bollocks?

Boris used brexit to be PM. If he thought he could be PM by being a remainer then he would have done so. If he thought there was personal gain in cutting Ukraine loose he would have done so. A classless wanker.

You sir are a prize mug. Funny as ****.


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He doesn’t. Many of his posts are tongue in cheek.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

He doesn’t. Many of his posts are tongue in cheek.

Oh the wit ….


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[The Clamp]

I haven’t seen any confirmation that there will be redundancies. Is there a link to an article saying this? I imagine it’s all speculation at this stage.

They do sometimes use voluntary redundancies for those go wish to leave with a pay-off. Forced redundancies are too much hassle they will normally do anything they can to avoid them.

Read any paper. The Times reported it on Friday.

Coincidentally, the Tory’s are currently pushing through a bill that enables them to substantially reduce any redundancy package civil servants are legally entitled to. Something they tried to do almost immediately after seizing power in May 2010.

Tory’s love a whitewash. They’ll lay off hard working, essential workers in order to claim they have streamlined the civil service while keeping workshy layabout Mogg and that Doris who writes spinster-lit and gets everything wrong.

I am not going to try and convince you further. Watch what happens.

 

[The Clamp]

Seeing as quite a few were taken on to deal with Brexit, it’s possible they were on fixed term contracts. No sackings or redundancies.

How many were taken on to deal with Brexit?

I can imagine the Tory’s announcing cuts to woo their core voters when in fact these were fixed term contracts.

91,000 extra workers and Brexit is still a shit show.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

“They’re all the same”

If you continue to unquestionably give this Tory government the benefit of the doubt either; you haven’t been listening or are a bit of a sucker. Either way, you’ll be shortchanged. But the upside for you is you likely won’t notice you’ve been conned.

It’s easier to trick someone than to convince them they’ve been tricked.

You would say I have been conned but it doesn't feel that way at all from where I sit, Boris said he would deliver on Brexit, and he did. He has led our country through the most difficult of times, some mistakes will have been made and the media tarts will pick up on some and the lefties will exaggerate the hell out of any others.

The guys I feel have been conned are the people reading all this hype and tripe.
Boris will continue to level up as he said he would.

I have not seen much praise for the way he has led from the front again on the Ukraine war.

He is a true leader of men, even came back from and very critically ill situation to push on through, that is the sort of character this country needs right now.

Can you see anyone else even close to his leadership out there

 

[Thunder Bolt]

How many were taken on to deal with Brexit?

I can imagine the Tory’s announcing cuts to woo their core voters when in fact these were fixed term contracts.

91,000 extra workers and Brexit is still a shit show.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61432498

There were 384,000 civil servants employed in 2016 - the lowest number since World War Two - but as the UK prepared to leave the EU, numbers steadily rose until they reached 475,000 at the end of last year.

 

[The Clamp]

You would say I have been conned but it doesn't feel that way at all from where I sit, Boris said he would deliver on Brexit, and he did. He has led our country through the most difficult of times, some mistakes will have been made and the media tarts will pick up on some and the lefties will exaggerate the hell out of any others.

The guys I feel have been conned are the people reading all this hype and tripe.
Boris will continue to level up as he said he would.

I have not seen much praise for the way he has led from the front again on the Ukraine war.

He is a true leader of men, even came back from and very critically ill situation to push on through, that is the sort of character this country needs right now.

Can you see anyone else even close to his leadership out there

Thought you were being serious for a minute there!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

You would say I have been conned but it doesn't feel that way at all from where I sit, Boris said he would deliver on Brexit, and he did. He has led our country through the most difficult of times, some mistakes will have been made and the media tarts will pick up on some and the lefties will exaggerate the hell out of any others.

The guys I feel have been conned are the people reading all this hype and tripe.
Boris will continue to level up as he said he would.

I have not seen much praise for the way he has led from the front again on the Ukraine war.

He is a true leader of men, even came back from and very critically ill situation to push on through, that is the sort of character this country needs right now.

Can you see anyone else even close to his leadership out there

Are you on the gak with Gove?

 

[R. Slicker]

You would say I have been conned but it doesn't feel that way at all from where I sit, Boris said he would deliver on Brexit, and he did. He has led our country through the most difficult of times, some mistakes will have been made and the media tarts will pick up on some and the lefties will exaggerate the hell out of any others.

The guys I feel have been conned are the people reading all this hype and tripe.
Boris will continue to level up as he said he would.

I have not seen much praise for the way he has led from the front again on the Ukraine war.

He is a true leader of men, even came back from and very critically ill situation to push on through, that is the sort of character this country needs right now.

Can you see anyone else even close to his leadership out there

I've found you on twitter, Mouldy

[tweet]1505311316969467904[/tweet]

 

[Guinness Boy]

Can you see anyone else even close to his leadership out there

David Brent?

Pol Pot?

Sami Hyypia?

 

[monty uk]

I've found you on twitter, Mouldy

[tweet]1505311316969467904[/tweet]

Ah yes.

Sir Michael Take.

Middle name Piss.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

I've found you on twitter, Mouldy

[tweet]1505311316969467904[/tweet]

It could be mate, the only thing is I don't do Twitter, I leave that to the opinionated.

 

[Springal]

Government at clueless. In a job I just left we had a project with one of the main departments on a contract worth about £20bn over 8-12 years. Nothing has been delivered, project has been ‘reset’ twice - and the government let the ‘new’ supplier takeover the incumbent - so now the same supplier has very little motivation to get anything moving as it’s earning to build a new thing and also keep the old one running for longer via contract extensions.

Less civil servants means they’ll get taken for a for a ride by private sector contractors more than they are now.