[Albion] Christian Walton on season long loan to Bury

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Fleetwood had 21 corners.

Amazing. Looked like quite a night for Christian.

 

[AZ Gull]

From the Bury website - Walton’s Development Process

Manager David Flitcroft:

He’ll learn about himself a lot. It was an easy take for Christian’s standard, but he’s not done it. However, his recovery after that and the way he’s kicked the ball, passed the ball and the way he’s come out for three or four really important takes after that, again just shows you he’s the type of keeper we want to work with.

 

[El Turi]

He just made another bad mistake for the last Leicester goal.

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

 

[saafend_seagull]

Haha jeez. I'm sure he's averaging about 4 a game conceding ?!

 

[saafend_seagull]

Haha jeez. I'm sure he's averaging about 4 a game conceding ?!

12 in four games.

 

[StonehamPark]

Haha jeez. I'm sure he's averaging about 4 a game conceding ?!

14 goals conceded in 5 games.

Although I couldn't take this game into account as it's far too unfair on Walton.

 

[Springal]

And some wanted him to be playing here last season. Glad he is getting some experience where it can't do us any harm

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

Doesn't really read very well, a lot of pressure on the lad being made the first team goalkeeper with no prior experience maybe it would have been better for him to have gotten a few run outs for us in cup matches. Must be taking a terrible knock to his confidence. Let's hope he earns a clean sheet soon.

 

[AZ Gull]

Doesn't really read very well, a lot of pressure on the lad being made the first team goalkeeper with no prior experience maybe it would have been better for him to have gotten a few run outs for us in cup matches. Must be taking a terrible knock to his confidence. Let's hope he earns a clean sheet soon.

He made four appearances for our first team last season, and spent most of the year sat on his arse on the first team bench. Another year of doing exactly the same wouldn't have helped his development one iota.

He needs to be playing competitive football, on a regular basis. He is getting EXACTLY the experience he needs. If he is good enough, he'll come through it and will be fine. And if he isn't, then so be it; but there's only one way to find out.

 

[spence]

He made four appearances for our first team last season, and spent most of the year sat on his arse on the first team bench. Another year of doing exactly the same wouldn't have helped his development one iota.

He needs to be playing competitive football, on a regular basis. He is getting EXACTLY the experience he needs. If he is good enough, he'll come through it and will be fine. And if he isn't, then so be it; but there's only one way to find out.

Far to sensible for him

 

[Bozza]

He made four appearances for our first team last season, and spent most of the year sat on his arse on the first team bench. Another year of doing exactly the same wouldn't have helped his development one iota.

He needs to be playing competitive football, on a regular basis. He is getting EXACTLY the experience he needs.

I'm not saying you are wrong and I fully appreciate that the 'loaned to a lower league team' is very much the done thing across football generally, but it was something I was thinking about the other day. The benefit of being loaned out is match experience, which is important, but in being loaned out players miss...

- Working with our better coaches every single day.
- Working with better quality players every single day.

I wonder if being loaned out is the de facto improvement course of action for all players, or whether for some players staying put will help them advance more quickly.

 

[SweatyMexican]

How good is the Bury defence? Is it all Walton?

 

[AZ Gull]

I'm not saying you are wrong and I fully appreciate that the 'loaned to a lower league team' is very much the done thing across football generally, but it was something I was thinking about the other day. The benefit of being loaned out is match experience, which is important, but in being loaned out players miss...

- Working with our better coaches every single day.
- Working with better quality players every single day.

I wonder if being loaned out is the de facto improvement course of action for all players, or whether for some players staying put will help them advance more quickly.

I take your point, but Walton has had two-and-a-half years of coaching at Albion by now. What he has very little of, is actual playing time, in senior mens football. With the best will in the world, there is simply no substitute for playing matches.

Freddie Woodman is 16 months younger than Walton, but is now the first choice 'keeper at Crawley, on loan from Newcastle. His dad (Andy) is the goalkeeping coach at Newcastle, so presumably knows what is best for his son (and goalkeeping student), and seems to believe that Freddie has reached a point where he needs to be playing games. I'm guessing that Albion's coaches (probably at a number of levels) have reached the same decision with Walton.

 

[Bozza]

I take your point, but Walton has had two-and-a-half years of coaching at Albion by now. What he has very little of, is actual playing time, in senior mens football. With the best will in the world, there is simply no substitute for playing matches.

Freddie Woodman is 16 months younger than Walton, but is now the first choice 'keeper at Crawley, on loan from Newcastle. His dad (Andy) is the goalkeeping coach at Newcastle, so presumably knows what is best for his son (and goalkeeping student), and seems to believe that Freddie has reached a point where he needs to be playing games. I'm guessing that Albion's coaches (probably at a number of levels) have reached the same decision with Walton.

Sorry, I wasn't really talking about Walton, although I failed to make that clear.

It was very much a general point on whether being loaned out is always the best approach for all players, given some of the day-to-day quality that will be sacrificed.

 

[GT49er]

Sorry, I wasn't really talking about Walton, although I failed to make that clear.

It was very much a general point on whether being loaned out is always the best approach for all players, given some of the day-to-day quality that will be sacrificed.

I suppose you could call it football's version of 'Kill or Cure.'

I think most of us agreed that sending Walton out on loan was a good idea; I'm still happy that it was - time might show that the decision didn't work out well. I hope not - but even if that should turn out to be the case, I'd still back that decision as the right one at the time.

 

[AZ Gull]

Sorry, I wasn't really talking about Walton, although I failed to make that clear.

It was very much a general point on whether being loaned out is always the best approach for all players, given some of the day-to-day quality that will be sacrificed.

I would agree that each case should be decided on it's merits. Rooney, for instance, wasn't in need of a loan spell; Harry Kane had four during his development, and Andros Townsend has had nine.

You could argue that Connor Goldson, when he chose to stay with the Shrews rather than joining Swansea, was turning down exactly what you are suggesting (better coaching, training with better quality players) in favour of actual match experience.

Certainly the higher up the pyramid your club is at, the more difficult it will be to breakthrough straight into the first team. I'm not sure there are too many managers willing to give youngsters sufficient opportunities without some evidence that they can cut it at a lower level of football (ie through a loan spell or two).

 

[Discodoktor]

Last goal was bad.
http://youtu.be/Ert_pYtYidM

 

[spence]

last one is awful. The one before that he should have done better.

 

[El Turi]

He's been dropped from the Bury matchday squad for today's game.