[News] Chris Kaba .. Justice served ?

[maffew]

“There’s clearly still a wider lack of trust in the police, particularly within the Black community, that needs to be addressed. As Mayor, I will continue to work with the Government to support and hold the Metropolitan Police to account to ensure any lessons are learnt and the Met commands the trust of all Londoners as we build a safer London for everyone.”

Dear Mayor, London got a bit safer already with this gangster taken out and his other cronies locked up in jail cos of the Met.

 

[Ike and Tina Burner]

The press showing a young, smiling man who was about to be the father of a child. In fact he had received a Domestic Violence Protection Order preventing him from contacting the mother-to-be.

 

[Soton Seagull]

Sounds like he was a scumbag, although I struggle with the idea that people deserve to die for being such things.

That said, trying to run over the police, particularly if they have guns, does seem naive at best.

 

[Ike and Tina Burner]

A car is not a lethal weapon.

Out of the last 10 unlawful killings of police officers 4 were caused by a motor vehicles. 3 by cars and one by a quad bike. Your comment is outrageously ignorant.

 

[Easy 10]

Their lives were not in danger, Kaba hadn't done anything wrong, he was being pursued by police so the situation was created by the police, he was unarmed so they presumed he may be armed. A car is not a lethal weapon. The only reason he would have been followed by armed officers is they suspected he had a gun, they don't pursue suspects because they think they might kill someone with their car.

My final response to you on this thread because you are clearly on a wind up, or are CATASTROPHICALLY stupid. I mean seriously highly enriched weapons grade buffoonery.

For the most part this has been an interesting and considered debate on this thread. Except for your tiresome childish nonsensical gubbins, which sticks out like a turd on a snare drum.

 

[Triggaaar]

Their lives were not in danger

Yes they were

Kaba hadn't done anything wrong

He was driving a car which had been involved in an armed incident. Are you seriously suggesting the police shouldn't want to question the driver of such a car? And then when they did try to question him, he rammed them. Repeatedly.

And you think that's doing nothing wrong.

I've been stopped by the police a lot of times. I've always complied with their instructions.

he was being pursued by police so the situation was created by the police

No, the situation was caused by the fact that the vehicle had been used in an armed incident.

he was unarmed so they presumed he may be armed

No, they thought he might be armed because (is the penny dropping yet?) the vehicle had been used in an armed incident.

A car is not a lethal weapon.

Of course it is, which is why people are sometimes guilty of causing death by dangerous driving.


Have you ever, ever, been right about anything?

 

[Triggaaar]

McNob, is just on a wind up.

Should be banned. Is a totally pointless user who just talks shit on every subject for the sake of it.

 

[GT49er]

Yes they were



He was driving a car which had been involved in an armed incident. Are you seriously suggesting the police shouldn't want to question the driver of such a car? And then when they did try to question him, he rammed them. Repeatedly.

And you think that's doing nothing wrong.

I've been stopped by the police a lot of times. I've always complied with their instructions.




No, the situation was caused by the fact that the vehicle had been used in an armed incident.




No, they thought he might be armed because (is the penny dropping yet?) the vehicle had been used in an armed incident.



Of course it is, which is why people are sometimes guilty of causing death by dangerous driving.


Have you ever, ever, been right about anything?

Don't worry about the pr*t - there's a reason his user name includes 'Nob'.

 

[jcdenton08]

In fairness, I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt. I had a falling out with someone here many years ago, who it turned out was going through some very serious and sad stuff in their personal life and were perhaps not being “their best self” when presenting on NSC.

Giving this poster the benefit of the doubt, he may be having mental issues we don’t know about or be sleep deprived etc.

 

[METALMICKY]

The press showing a young, smiling man who was about to be the father of a child. In fact he had received a Domestic Violence Protection Order preventing him from contacting the mother-to-be.

Always the same false narrative isn't it? He loved his mum and helps old ladies across the road with their shopping. When in reality turns out they are weapons grade career violent criminals!

 

[GT49er]

Headline in today's Guardian: "Chris Kaba shot man in club and was alleged core member of London gang"

Yes. I wasn't referring to that article in the Guardian. I expect it also had some football scores in; I wasn't referring to those, or the sports pages either. I was referring to the article linked in the OP. Forgive me for thinking that your reply looks a little dense.

 

[GT49er]

Absolutely. But he wasn't an innocent person, he was a total wrong-un, a feral ratboy, so acted according to type. And paid the ultimate price.

I'm just genuinely glad it didn't end up ruining the life of the firearms officer. Imagine having this hanging over you for the last 2 years.

Thanks to the CPS prosecuting, it probably has ruined his life. Feral ratboy's nice little chums have the honour of their gang to protect, innit, and any policeman who shoots their leader is dissing all of them so revenge is the only justice. It is quite possible the victim in this (the policeman who did his job and has been found not guilty) may have to go into police protection.

 

[Easy 10]

Thanks to the CPS prosecuting, it probably has ruined his life. Feral ratboy's nice little chums have the honour of their gang to protect, innit, and any policeman who shoots their leader is dissing all of them so revenge is the only justice. It is quite possible the victim in this (the policeman who did his job and has been found not guilty) may have to go into police protection.

Yes, sadly I fear you may be right.

 

[clapham_gull]

Dear Mayor, London got a bit safer already with this gangster taken out and his other cronies locked up in jail cos of the Met.

This one should have never have got to court, but until the MET sorts itself out there will always an element of doubt I'm afraid.

There is wide distrust of the MET. Far too many scandals and their historical inability to deal with it.

 

[dsr-burnley]

If I said what I really think about that poster re the unsubstantiated inferences he’s making I‘d be banned…..still he seems to have a friend here

statement made yesterday by Khan…..sympathies to his friends, i wonder of what character they are

“I understand the impact Chris Kaba’s death has had on London’s communities and the anger, pain and fear it has caused. I send my heartfelt sympathies to Chris Kaba’s family, friends and the wider community once again.

“There’s clearly still a wider lack of trust in the police, particularly within the Black community, that needs to be addressed. As Mayor, I will continue to work with the Government to support and hold the Metropolitan Police to account to ensure any lessons are learnt and the Met commands the trust of all Londoners as we build a safer London for everyone.”

When he says "London's communities", he really needs to explain what he means. He needs to make it absolutely clear that he is talking only about communities of gangsters and criminals, and not (for example) black people in general.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Yes they were



He was driving a car which had been involved in an armed incident. Are you seriously suggesting the police shouldn't want to question the driver of such a car? And then when they did try to question him, he rammed them. Repeatedly.

And you think that's doing nothing wrong.

I've been stopped by the police a lot of times. I've always complied with their instructions.




No, the situation was caused by the fact that the vehicle had been used in an armed incident.




No, they thought he might be armed because (is the penny dropping yet?) the vehicle had been used in an armed incident.



Of course it is, which is why people are sometimes guilty of causing death by dangerous driving.


Have you ever, ever, been right about anything?

I salute your indefatigability.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

This one should have never have got to court, but until the MET sorts itself out there will always an element of doubt I'm afraid.

There is wide distrust of the MET. Far too many scandals and their historical inability to deal with it.

Agree. It had to go to court.

And not all Met police acts are criminal acts, as on this occasion.

One might argue that both the dead man, and the Met brought it all on themselves.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Thanks to the CPS prosecuting, it probably has ruined his life. Feral ratboy's nice little chums have the honour of their gang to protect, innit, and any policeman who shoots their leader is dissing all of them so revenge is the only justice. It is quite possible the victim in this (the policeman who did his job and has been found not guilty) may have to go into police protection.

One would hope that large amounts of money will be spent protecting and compensating this police officer, whose safety has been compromised by the needless naming of him before conviction. Oh, hang on, sorry, before acquittal. I suspect I have just unearthed the flaw in due process here....

 

[drew]

Their lives were not in danger, Kaba hadn't done anything wrong, he was being pursued by police so the situation was created by the police, he was unarmed so they presumed he may be armed. A car is not a lethal weapon. The only reason he would have been followed by armed officers is they suspected he had a gun, they don't pursue suspects because they think they might kill someone with their car.

Have you actually read anything about this case?

 

[Randy McNob]

A f***ing spoon is a lethal weapon if a nut job chooses to try and kill you with it.

The point i'm making is there seems to be no distinction between whether the pursuit and use of firearms was due to the belief they thought he had a gun in his posession and would have used it - and the fact they felt his car was the leathal weapon. Seems like the car reason was brought into the equation only once they realised he was unarmed. Maybe justice would have been served with a manslaughter charge