Chris Hughton - the most tactically astute BHA manager since...

[sussex_guy2k2]

I'm talking about 3 players all very similar in their play.

If you were going to put our players in boxes showing similar roles and attributes those three would all be in the same box. So you can't play them together. In fact I wouldn't even want two out of the three in the same team.

One look at the team was all it took.

Then add in Skalak out of position, Calderon ageing and out of position and an ageing striker lone up front and the team was the stuff of nightmares.

We're saying the same thing ��

 

[One Love]

We're saying the same thing ��

Yes I suppose we are

 

[tigertim68]

Picked the wrong team , wrong tactics and the team played crap , which is why we got stuffed Ch got it wrong today

 

[Super Steve Earle]

Well I guess CH decided he had enough of this thread. Chris Hughton and tactically astute are unlikely to appear in the same sentence for a while now

 

[Pavilionaire]

There can be no excuses today. Hull followed Tuesday's battle with a creditable draw at Arsenal in the Cup, we responded with our worst performance of the season. 4-4-2 and Rosenior to start was the way to go today.

 

[Giraffe]

I thought of this thread when I saw the team line up today.

Hughton has one game plan away from home and that is to hold the midfield and defence and then maybe try to attack. But attacking away from home is very secondary. It has worked sometimes to be fair.

However I don't believe you go up automatically without really going to try and win every game home and away. That's what Bournemouth did, that's what Leicester did. We need tone bolder away from home. I understood going to Hull and playing for a draw, but we didn't need to do the same at Cardiff. We should have really gone for them today from the first minute with two up front. Instead we have the initiative away before we had even kicked off.

 

[Acker79]

Well I guess CH decided he had enough of this thread. Chris Hughton and tactically astute are unlikely to appear in the same sentence for a while now

Nonsense. We'll have a good win on Tuesday, and people will say this was a blip. Then when we lose again people will question his tactical astuteness, then we'll win again and he'll be great...

As it ever was.

 

[darkwolf666]

Totally agree. Don't understand the mentality, we have a team more than capable of playing an attacking 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 away from home, so why do we retreat into our shell far too often?

 

[kevo]

According to the post-match interview, CH thinks formation and tactics not to blame. Have to say I disagree. Made some major tinkering changes today and it was a disaster. Hopefully he'll learn from it.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

There can be no excuses today. Hull followed Tuesday's battle with a creditable draw at Arsenal in the Cup, we responded with our worst performance of the season. 4-4-2 and Rosenior to start was the way to go today.

We were poor, but not as bad a performance as at Rotherham

 

[Super Steve Earle]

Well I guess CH decided he had enough of this thread. Chris Hughton and tactically astute are unlikely to appear in the same sentence for a while now

Nonsense. We'll have a good win on Tuesday, and people will say this was a blip. Then when we lose again people will question his tactical astuteness, then we'll win again and he'll be great...

As it ever was.

Actually, mine was intended as a wry and gentle reflection on the match today in the context of this thread, not a full-on putdown of Chris's tactical astuteness. He has shown some great tactical awareness on many occasions, but also some very cautious tendencies that can frustrate the fans. Plus, of course, firstly I doubt he reads this thread and secondly I find it unlikely that he would deliberately show a lack of tactical astuteness just to draw a NSC thread to a close!

 

[mona]

Too defensive? I thought we pushed up too much in the first half hour and were punished for it. Especially as the strong wind favoured Cardiff.
Perhaps good old Russell Spade is a tactical genius after all.

 

[dazzer6666]

I thought of this thread when I saw the team line up today.

Hughton has one game plan away from home and that is to hold the midfield and defence and then maybe try to attack. But attacking away from home is very secondary. It has worked sometimes to be fair.

However I don't believe you go up automatically without really going to try and win every game home and away. That's what Bournemouth did, that's what Leicester did. We need tone bolder away from home. I understood going to Hull and playing for a draw, but we didn't need to do the same at Cardiff. We should have really gone for them today from the first minute with two up front. Instead we have the initiative away before we had even kicked off.

Spot on. He f*cked up today. It happens.

 

[Ninja Elephant]

I don't think he's especially tactically astute at all and I'm not having a go at him, I just don't think you can say he's tactically astute because we went to a 5 man midfield and picked up a 0-0 draw. We kept the 4-4-2 against Middlesbrough and we all saw how badly that turned out but equally, going to Ipswich and playing two up front got us the win. I don't think he changes things tactically very often, it's very much our style of play and it'll work or it won't work but he rarely does things to change the pattern of a game aside from second half substitutions, either attacking or defensive depending on how the game is going. Against Bolton everyone could see how pathetic their defenders were, to a man. Pathetic. But we stood off them, gave them time and space and didn't exploit their obvious flaw. Was it not noticed? Did we not feel we needed to go after them high up the pitch? I'm not sure, but we only won that game by a single goal when our overall superiority was far greater.

I think very highly of Hughton, he's a fantastic manager who is doing a brilliant job for us in every department but I don't think he's particularly tactically astute and I don't mind that - because what I perceive his strength to be is organising the team, getting the right atmosphere around the squad and preparing the players for each game as they come. I don't think he's a Mourinho style tactician, that isn't what he does but what he is doing should be celebrated, it's a remarkable turnaround from last season and we could very well win this division this season.

I don't usually like to quote my own posts and I hate it when people quote old posts out of context but I really think that last night proved my original post in this thread to be about right. There isn't much tactical acuity in Chris Hughton, he sets us up and it works, or it doesn't work. There's no real effort to change the shape of the team or the pattern of the game even if it is required, he just changes a player or three. Last night was crying out to bin Baldock after about 4 minutes and bring on Kayal to play a shape which would have allowed us to dominate their midfield and nullify Bannan who was sitting deep to get things moving for them. Hughton never did anything to change the pattern of the game, almost like he was more than happy with a boring 0-0 draw which was the least memorable game at the Amex for quite a while.

 

[brianwade]

Too conservative - at home against a team that had only scored once in their last 4 games he left our best strikers on the bench . You can debate it but is Wilson better than Baldock - is Zamora better than Hemed .? It looked like we were playing the lead leaders away from home and needed a point . Okay Hughton is an excellent manager but he just lacks that self belief to go for it when things are going well . He always sticks and never twists . I was so boring last night - 0 shots on target that's a joke and we are not going up playing like that